Talk:Daiteikoku:Nations

Romanization of ドクツ
I know it's a wordplay on Deutsche (ドイツ), but I don't know how to write this. I've seen ドクツ written as Dekutsch around this Wiki, but I don't know. Something about it rubs me wrong. Aurabolt213 16:13, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well ドイツ means Deutsch (in german) probably coming from Duits how our Neighbours the Netherlands like to call it. I think the change from イ to ク shall be represented by the change of u to ku. I still prefer Dokutsu though. PeterHarry 17:43, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * So Dekutsche is our best effort at naming. I won't touch anything for now, so further comments from others are welcome; we should stick with one everyone can agree on. And then work at keeping the name consistent here and there. Aurabolt213 17:51, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Romanization of エイリス
Past notes about the naming issue is found on this talk page. I can say one thing with confidence though. It's not the katakana for Alice. Alicesoft uses アリス if I'm correct. I'm towards believing it's another wordplay as with ドクツ. Japan sometimes writes English as イギリス. We got some matching kana there. Aurabolt213 17:09, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * If you'll watch the Daiteikoku intro, at some point for a few seconds all countries' names are shown in abbreviated English. エイリス is abbreviated "ERS". So I say 99% chance it's simply "Eris". In the same breath, Nihon's abbreviation IS shown as "JPN". Gahahahahahahahaha!! 06:44, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Romanization of 中帝国
I notice someone has been changing Chinese Empire to Chun Empire. Is there a need for that? China in the modern world isn't actually called China in Japanese or its native tougue either. By that logic of romanization, 日本 should Nippon instead of Japan.UnknownOrigin 08:06, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I vote there's no need for it. 76.169.38.22 08:09, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm personally quite divided on the issue, but slightly tending towards favoring Nippon over Japan. It might be something worth a deeper discussion involving more people who care. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 08:19, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Since no one else is replying, i will start the discussion here. Using Japan/Nippon wasn't a good example. Let's take say... 人類統合組織ソビエト. Would it better to call it Soviet or Sobieto? Perhaps you could argue that all katagana should be translated to english but what about the United Human Organization part? Should it be Jinrui-tōgō-soshiki instead? On the other hand, Chun means middle, so should Chinese Empire be translated to Middle Empire (I know some places that do this). The way I see it, we should stick with English translation (while perserving the author's intention) when possible as this is a wiki for english readers and should assume to have limited knowledge of Japanese (especially kanji). By translatin to Chinese empire, people know that the country is meant to reference China with the same level of clearness as it had in Japanese. UnknownOrigin 22:39, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think the person changing everything to "Chun" will even look at this. And no, I'm not new in this talk. 76.169.38.22 was me. Aurabolt213 22:45, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Most likely not. But it makes me feel better undoing the changes of other people if others, especially frequents like Afker, agrees. UnknownOrigin 02:38, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll do the dirty deed then. It seems this game's heat has died, so I'm planning to clean up every page here; what we have at least. I already rewrote 1.5 pages, during which I reverted a few "Chun" back to "China." Let's see how long I can keep interested in this though. Aurabolt213 03:05, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Your reasoning are very sensible. Following that line of thought, I would like to explore ideas on how to better "translate" the エイリス帝国, or if people think the association with British is sufficiently clear to English language users who are not familiar with Japanese. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 08:57, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Any suggestions for ドクツ, anyone? Also, UnknownOrigin really knows his stuff, but I'll try to find better romanization for エイリス too. I've found the katakana used for Ares somewhere, but that unfortunately has nothing to do with the British. Aurabolt213 15:46, June 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * One approach to tackle ドクツ would be to derive something out of "Deutsch". George W Bush might not know what that word means, and technically it's not an English word, but it is a decent place to draw some arbitrary line.  Using this approach, we can try to fill in the mapping
 * ドイツ (Doitsu) -> ドクツ (Dokutsu)
 * Deutsch -> ?
 * Now, we need to find a German pronunciation guide and figure out how we can fiddle up something that changes the De"doi" sound of the "Deu" part to a "dok" sound.
 * Alternative two ("localization"): just randomly screw with the word "Germany" and turn it into "Gerkany" or something. This is the option that even Bush can hopefully figure out. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 06:19, June 22, 2011 (UTC)