User talk:82.32.169.28

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 * I don't need an account, and I know how wikis work because I'm a frequent (registered) editor of wikipedia. I only made a one-word edit here, and I don't like registering accounts on sites where I'm not going to do much. 82.32.169.28 14:54, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

On the issue of "row" and "column", I know it's typically the horizontal one that's called a row and the vertical one that's called the column, but in the game things are facing sideways. So I tend to think of it as "front row", "back row", "left column" (top "row" for us, bottom "row" for enemies), "center column", and "right column". I am probably not alone in picturing things this way. Do you think you can help think of some wording that can eliminate this ambiguity/confusion caused by the different perspectives? -Afker 02:45, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * If it matters that much, it should be "vertical column". It should certainly not be "row". I can also argue it in another manner aside from mere convention: when dealing with databases, spreadsheets and the like, all "rows" have identical purpose with different data, and all "columns" have very different purposes. In Rance, it doesn't matter which horizontal "row" a character is in at all, but the "column" dictates both what attacks it can do and whose side it is on. Indeed, if it actually /was/ rotated so that the enemies were at the top and your units were at the bottom, I would call the horizontals columns and the verticals rows.


 * Also, I'm severely failing at the game... after taking over Ashikaga, Iga, Hara and Tenshi, I ended up being at war with practically everyone, most of which will not let me attack them at all (if I try, I end up wasting units and a war fan and nothing happens for Akashi/Tanegashima/Mori; Asakura send a load of animals after me and just won't stop until I right click and lose the battle) and Takeda/Tokugawa are just too strong. Aaaand this wiki isn't really helping much with that.


 * Oh and one more thing... the new messages message won't disappear, and it's damn annoying. 82.32.169.28 15:06, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm, I thought there's a dismiss link for the anon messages. I suspect that's a software bug, will report it.  Logged in users (you don't need to provide email, it's strictly optional) see a different message and I have no trouble dismissing the sitenotice.   You can create a totally different account than Wikipedia if you happen to not wish the two identities to be associated.
 * I agree which "horizontal" the character is in doesn't matter. But in normal speech, people also don't say "front column" or "back column", they say "front row" or "back row".  So where there is a concept of "front" and "back", there is a population of people who would automatically associate the term "row" with the front/back, instead of left/center/right.  So I guess the clearest way is to always attach "horizontal" or "vertical" when using the terms "row" and "column".
 * Anyways, regarding your problem of not able to attack, I think it might be related to the Incident at Honnou Temple:
 * "There are 8 seals on the Demon Xavier, whose status you can check via the F5 menu. When a total of 5 seals have been broken (due to conquest or passage of time), the game enters the 'Incident at Honnou Temple mode', beginning with the disappearance of Princess Aroma. During this mode, you are not allowed to attack any house (although you can defend, and troops with battle permits may still attack at will)."
 * As for Asakura, see Sengoku_Rance:Walkthrough:
 * "After taking over one of their territories, you will be attacked by endless waves of pandas, and be forced to retreat and lose the territory. On the following turn, you can take over territories normally."
 * Hope those help with your specific problems... how come you are at war with Takeda, Tokugawa, Tanegashima, Akashi, AND Mori at the same time? Without even conquering Asakura and Imagawa, the Takeda should have no reason to go to war with you (um, unless you are using someone else's save and picked the Takeda bonus pack, but if you have the Takeda bonus, you should be able to trample over them easily).  And how are you getting to Mori with both Tanegashima and Akashi still alive?  It might help me diagnose the cause of your woes if you can describe the general flow of your conquests and the sequences of which houses declared war on you when.
 * Anyways, if you have ideas on how to better improve the Walkthrough section, to help better locate various info, go ahead and be bold. (-: -Afker 18:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * After some looking around, it appears that anon notice is also not dismissable on the English, Japanese, Chinese Wikipedia, on Meta, and on WM. So it's most likely a MediaWiki-wide "feature".  I'll talk to the Wikia ppl I know to see if they can modify theirs and bring back the dismiss button for anonnotice. -Afker 18:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Ugh... kay, I just registered but your CSS is still completely fucked up. It's all in horrible colors. D:


 * Anyway, that comment I posted aaaaabsolutely ages ago, and have since started a new game where I didn't get into a silly situation like that (not sure what I did there any more). Right now the game's just generally being annoying and giving me hard battles, though I can't really say much cause I don't have access to it as I type this. Puropuro 22:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)