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The Daiakuji Guide
Draft Verison 2.0. Collected by Afker, #Alice_In_Hgameland, Dalnet

Last revised May 4, 2002. Last edited Jan 20, 2006 for clean language

Since it's a direct transcript of conversions, it's going to be very confusing. Read at your own risk (also, not all info gaurenteed to be correct/consistent).

A revised (ie, organized) guide will come out sometime in June if people bug me enough.

Right now there are 3 chapters. Chapter 1 is long. Chapters 2 & 3 are LONG. Chapter 1 was in version 0.1, and chapters 2 & 3 are added in version 2.0. Enjoy!

Development Version

Chapter 1: Basic Background
[04:32]  anyways, so which AliceSoft game shall we discuss today? [04:32]  Daiakuji XD [04:33]  k [04:33]  Daiakuji is set in a parallel universe [04:33]  hmmm [04:33]  America is an extreme Feminist society [04:34]  Japan just lost WWII [04:34]  so there's a American army presence in Japan [04:34]  hmmm [04:35]  sounds good [04:35]  you grandpa runs the biggest mafia/gangster group in Oosaka [04:35]  your name is Yamamoto Akuji [04:36]  I thought Japan lost? [04:36]  so you naturally grew up with the black society [04:36]  during the war, you were captured by the Americans [04:36]  but after the war, you get to go home [04:37] <Afker> XCal, you have toshin toshi 2? [04:37] <Elementasts> aaaah [04:37] <Elementasts> the evil god thingie [04:37] <Xcaliberium> and pick if you wanna give good luck or let the bad luck get them [04:37] <Afker> I played the demo [04:37] <Afker> it was fun [04:38] <Xcaliberium> it even has Tentacles and Brother + mom Action [04:38] <Afker> demo of mamorigamisama [04:38] <Elementasts> oh man [04:38] <Xcaliberium> oh and the aliens abductions [04:38] <Elementasts> hehe [04:38] <Xcaliberium> wish it were longer [04:39] <Xcaliberium> never played it [04:39] <Xcaliberium> what is toshi about? [04:44] <Afker> ok [04:44] <Afker> so back to daiakuji [04:44] <Afker> after you come home to japan [04:44] <Elementasts> k [04:44] <Afker> you find that your grandpa left the mafia organization [04:44] <Afker> his mistress now controls thigns [04:44] <Afker> and she doesn't like you [04:45] <Elementasts> where's your grandpa? [04:45] <Afker> so you get beaten up [04:45] <Xcaliberium> H the mistress H the mistress [04:45] <Elementasts> I wanna know what happened to grandpa [04:45] <Afker> Xcal: you can, but no strong enough yet [04:45] <Afker> the grandpa just decided to leave or something [04:45] <H-junkie> u get thrown outta de organization i guess [04:45] <Afker> yeah [04:45] <H-junkie> den u gotta start a new org [04:45] <Afker> not quite [04:45] <H-junkie> n overthrow ur grandpa's mistress [04:46] <H-junkie> eh? [04:46] <H-junkie> not quite? [04:46] <Afker> you don't start one [04:46] <Xcaliberium> you join a rival one? [04:46] <H-junkie> u steal one? [04:46] <Afker> you find one that's started, and.. [04:46] <Afker> yeah [04:46] <Xcaliberium> even butter [04:46] <Afker> mmm [04:46] <Xcaliberium> err better [04:46] * Afker realizes that almost sounded like rance 5 [04:46] <H-junkie> ah n crawl from de bottem [04:47] <Afker> no [04:47] <Xcaliberium> maybe it is in a different reality [04:47] <Xcaliberium> of time [04:47] <Afker> haha [04:47] <Afker> anyways [04:47] <Afker> before we go anyfurthur [04:47] <Xcaliberium> or Rances great great great great great grandson [04:47] <Afker> let's explain the political system there [04:47] <H-junkie> woah [04:47] <H-junkie> deep complicated stuff [04:47] <Afker> the City of Oosaka is divided into different... county/regions [04:48] * Xcaliberium is so confused a qaurter seems complex [04:48] <Elementasts> this will make for even more complicated gaming nights XD [04:48] <H-junkie> lol [04:48] <Afker> various organizations control different regions [04:48] <Afker> of oosaka [04:48] <Afker> and they would fight each other for control over regions [04:48] <Afker> there's a city council that oversees the conflicts between organizations [04:48] <Elementasts> how many regions are there? [04:49] <Afker> tons [04:49] <Elementasts> man [04:49] <Afker> at least 20 [04:49] <Xcaliberium> can you buy nukes? or bio weapons? [04:49] <Elementasts> thats gonna be a long game [04:49] <Afker> youc an't buy them [04:49] <Afker> the americans have the nuke [04:49] <Elementasts> steal? [04:49] <Xcaliberium> how about swords? [04:49] <Afker> can't get it [04:49] <Afker> nah [04:49] <Xcaliberium> what timeline? [04:49] <Afker> this is mob fighting [04:49] <Afker> right after WWII [04:49] <Xcaliberium> far future with sabers [04:49] <Elementasts> tommy guns [04:49] <Afker> in parallel universe [04:49] <H-junkie> omg [04:49] <Xcaliberium> oh [04:49] <Elementasts> like dose gangsters [04:50] <Xcaliberium> who won WW2 [04:50] <H-junkie> mob fightin most primitiveof all fightin styles [04:50] <Afker> US [04:50] <Elementasts> Feminist America [04:50] <Elementasts> XD [04:50] <Afker> yup [04:50] <Xcaliberium> so in this game US won? [04:50] <Afker> yeah [04:50] <Xcaliberium> so how is it parrallel [04:50] <H-junkie> de diff is US take control of Japan [04:50] <Afker> US is feminist [04:51] <Afker> it doesn't completely "control" japan [04:51] <Xcaliberium> well some much for everything tasting like chicken [04:51] <Xcaliberium> guess it is choclate now [04:51] <Afker> but has a strong military presence, and hence heavy influence [04:51] <H-junkie> but theres sum influence [04:51] <H-junkie> i c [04:51] <H-junkie> wait a minute....us got heavy military influence in jap too now [04:51] <Afker> so, there are several organizations right now in oosaka [04:51] <Afker> city council controls 2 [04:52] <Afker> the Americans stationed at one [04:52] <Afker> your grandpa's old organization controls most of Oosaka [04:52] <Afker> there's a river that cuts off 1/3 of oosaka, and that 1/3 is controled by PM [04:52] <Afker> that's in the east [04:53] <Afker> to the far west a religious group (we'll just call it the Cult) controls a few regions [04:53] <Afker> there are a few independent ones [04:53] <Afker> and a "YMCA" kind of group (not religious or anyting, but just young people service group) controls one region [04:55] <Afker> so [04:55] <Afker> after you got beaten up by the old group [04:56] <Afker> you were found by this YMCA group [04:56] *** Sp|47 has joined #Alice_In_Hgameland [04:56] <Elementasts> ok [04:57] <Afker> they thought you are a random bad guy [04:57] *** H-junkie has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer ) [04:57] *** Sp|47 is now known as H-junkie [04:57] <Afker> so you fought them [04:57] <Afker> and you lost (cuz you just got beaten up by your grandpa's old gang) [04:57] <Delphox> H-junkie? [04:57] <Delphox> are you here? [04:57] <Elementasts> hehe [04:57] <H-junkie> yep [04:57] <H-junkie> got dc [04:57] <Afker> however [04:58] <H-junkie> damn did i miss nething on daiakuji [04:58] <Afker> after they brought you back to their HQ, you managed to trick them [04:58] <Delphox> hey afker? [04:58] <Elementasts> trick? [04:58] <H-junkie> ahhh... [04:58] <Afker> Del: yes? [04:58] * H-junkie concentrates on narrative [04:58] <H-junkie> doh [04:58] <H-junkie> u just have to interrupt delphox [04:58] <H-junkie> lol [04:59] <Afker> you told them you can make this really good food [04:59] <Afker> and one of the girls of the YMCA group really likes eating [04:59] <Delphox> ups sorry H-junkie... ;b [04:59] <H-junkie> hehe just kiddin XP [04:59] <Elementasts> XD [04:59] <Afker> so she released you so you can make them food [04:59] <Elementasts> hahaha [04:59] <H-junkie> food? [04:59] <Afker> but instead, you XXXed them [04:59] <H-junkie> LOL [04:59] <H-junkie> dats sum revenge [04:59] <Afker> and when their leader came back, you XXXed her [05:00] <H-junkie> hahaha [05:00] <Afker> and took control of YMCA [05:00] <Afker> that's the beginning of the story [05:00] <Elementasts> and then you XXX a whoel lot more XD [05:00] <Afker> your goal: to rule over oosaka [05:02] <Afker> basically, you were so good in bed (technically, you didn't do it in bed...), the girls fall in love with you [05:02] <Elementasts> hehe [05:15] <Afker> for daiakuji, [05:15] <Afker> each region needs to be governed [05:15] <Elementasts> hmm [05:15] <Afker> in order to collect "Protection Fee" [05:16] <Afker> also to reduce crime rate [05:16] <Elementasts> hehe [05:16] <Elementasts> reduce [05:16] <Afker> (ie, crime not committed by you) [05:16] <Elementasts> oh [05:16] <Afker> the lower the crime rate (safer), the more fees you can collect [05:17] <Afker> but also depends on the basic "collectibility" of each region [05:17] <Elementasts> money potential? [05:17] <Afker> and the "collect ability" of people you stationed there [05:17] <Afker> yeah [05:17] <Afker> so collectbility is max money you can get from each region [05:18] <Afker> but if your ppl stationed there only able to collect 50, then even if collectibility is 500, you'll only get 50 [05:18] <Afker> each region you can have one building [05:18] <Afker> it can be some crome control thing (one of them do weird radio wave to reduce crime) [05:18] <Afker> some are vending machines [05:19] <Elementasts> hmm [05:19] <Afker> working girl houses [05:19] <Elementasts> O_o [05:19] <Afker> "training center" [05:19] <Afker> etc [05:19] <Elementasts> I thought this was a combat game? [05:20] <Afker> combat and govern [05:20] <Elementasts> k [05:20] <Afker> turn based [05:20] <Afker> each turn is one week [05:21] <Afker> each week you can do one "region action" (like the Rance 5 city action) [05:21] <Afker> then you can interact with one subordinate [05:21] <Afker> (train, talk, H) [05:21] <Afker> (reward) [05:22] <Elementasts> is it as complicated as Rance 5? [05:22] <Afker> simpler [05:22] <Afker> or, in most ways simpler [05:22] <Afker> each subordinate has this "royality" stat [05:22] <Afker> also there's a "Royality type" [05:23] <Elementasts> loyalty? [05:23] <Afker> yeah [05:23] <Afker> d-: [05:24] <Elementasts> k [05:24] <Afker> types include: "Material Desire", "Love Desire", and "Unconditional" [05:24] <Afker> "unconditional" reflects bad translation on my part [05:24] <Elementasts> hehe [05:24] <Elementasts> maybe slave type? [05:24] <Afker> it really means the person is serving you out of principle, as opposed to desire [05:25] <Afker> no [05:25] <H-junkie> basicly faithful to u [05:25] <Afker> like a true loyal friend, wife, [05:25] <Afker> yeah [05:25] <H-junkie> unwaverin support n loyalty :D [05:25] <Afker> looks up to you [05:25] <Afker> yup [05:25] <Afker> mmm [05:25] <Afker> Faith would be a better word [05:25] <H-junkie> i guess love desire is da best den [05:25] <H-junkie> lol [05:26] <H-junkie> x, x n more xxx :D [05:26] <Afker> ok, so for Faith type, the loyalty degree will never decrease, and always at 99 (max) [05:26] <Elementasts> >:D [05:26] <Afker> the other two types will decrease with time [05:26] <Afker> giving rewards (money) will increase loyality [05:27] <Afker> and for Love desire, you can H them to increase loyality [05:27] <H-junkie> yea [05:27] <H-junkie> da best [05:27] <Afker> but how much it increases depends on your "technique" stat [05:27] <H-junkie> woah...not so easy eh [05:27] <Afker> some female subordinates might start as Faith or Material desire, but become Love Desire after you H them [05:28] <H-junkie> ahhh....hidden catch [05:28] <Afker> if loyalty is too low, they might simply run off and disappear from your organization [05:28] <Afker> also, like rance 5, if they die in battle, they die [05:31] <Afker> you can station your subordinate in regions you control, and regions adjacent to the ones you control [05:31] <Xcaliberium> what is the game called? [05:31] <Afker> if you station ppl in enemy regions, or if enemy station ppl in your regions, then you can fight [05:31] <Afker> Daiakuji [05:31] <H-junkie> literally means big evil sushi [05:31] <H-junkie> LOL [05:32] <Afker> eh [05:32] <Afker> not sushi [05:32] <Afker> d-: [05:32] <Afker> there's a max of 6 ppl per side that can be stationed at a region [05:33] <Afker> during fights [05:33] <Afker> it's turnbased [05:33] <H-junkie> 6 onli? [05:33] <H-junkie> i tot it was a mob figt? [05:33] <Afker> the number of turns in a fight is the max number of ppl on either side [05:34] <Afker> so if you have 4 ppl stations, the enemy has 5 ppl stationed, then there will be 5 turns [05:34] <Afker> d-: [05:34] <Afker> each turn you pick one person (you can keep picking the same person) [05:34] <H-junkie> u noe de game too well if u ask me........ [05:34] <Afker> so one from each side attack each other once [05:34] <Afker> I played it for weeks during winter break [05:34] <Afker> solved it twice [05:35] <Afker> d-: [05:35] <H-junkie> wow....u conquered oosaka twice? [05:35] <Afker> yeah [05:35] <Xcaliberium> never went for that 10 games a day beating it each time [05:35] <Afker> hehe [05:35] <H-junkie> lol [05:36] <Afker> I haven't done half the things I can do with that game though [05:36] <Elementasts> damn [05:36] <H-junkie> even tho lord afker didn't do half de things in de game u du have to be so fustrated Elementasts [05:36] * Xcaliberium falls alseeep [05:37] <Afker> sorry [05:37] * H-junkie buries Xcaliberium n sticks a "Dig me up ya hear?" sign on top of de mound [05:37] <Afker> so, fight either ends when all of one side gets killed [05:37] <Afker> or if number of turns is up [05:37] <Xcaliberium> I need some sleep been up for like 29 hours now [05:37] <Afker> if number of turns is up, then the challenger loses [05:38] <H-junkie> wait a minute...so in de given scenario u gave de whole fight will end after 5 turns? [05:38] <Afker> characters with HP less than 5 risk being captured by the enemy [05:38] <H-junkie> i c [05:38] <Afker> yeah [05:38] <H-junkie> so its a fast fight kinda hting [05:38] <Afker> capturing is good [05:39] <Elementasts> cuz you get ot H? [05:39] <Afker> cuz you can recruit them, h the females, or turtore them to find out secrets [05:39] <H-junkie> oooh...torture~ [05:39] <Afker> recruit is improtant [05:39] <Afker> torture never works in one try [05:40] <Elementasts> torture = H too? [05:40] <Afker> have to do it multiple times (multiple weeks) [05:40] <H-junkie> dats y torturin is enjoyable [05:40] <H-junkie> never works on de first try [05:40] <H-junkie> :D [05:40] <H-junkie> but its a waste of turns i guess [05:40] <Afker> no [05:40] <Elementasts> torture also gives you H pics right? [05:41] <Afker> not really [05:41] <Afker> depends [05:41] <Afker> for a few characters, yes [05:41] <H-junkie> de core charaters? [05:41] <Afker> but after you get stuff from turtoring, the prisoner dies [05:41] <H-junkie> wow [05:41] <Afker> some of the core characters, not all [05:41] <Elementasts> :( [05:41] <Elementasts> the prisoner dies? [05:41] <H-junkie> snuff... XD [05:41] <Elementasts> das bad [05:42] <H-junkie> too evil [05:42] <Afker> you can send female captives into training [05:42] <Afker> working girl training [05:43] <Afker> there are different levels of working girl [05:43] <Afker> the higher levels will get you more money [05:43] <H-junkie> makin prostitution an art [05:43] <Afker> but takes longer to get to those levels [05:44] <Afker> on the other hand, the more customers they serve, the less they are worth [05:44] <Afker> (depreciated) [05:44] <H-junkie> lol [05:44] <H-junkie> like a car [05:44] <Afker> but you can also sell them completely [05:44] <Afker> sell them out [05:44] <H-junkie> dats sum badass values de game imparts :P [05:44] <Afker> cuz there's a max num of working girl you can have [05:44] <Afker> so sell the onces that don't make as much money [05:44] <H-junkie> yah [05:45] <H-junkie> sell de cheap-o sluts [05:45] <Afker> you sell them to a wealthy ugly guy [05:45] <H-junkie> they'll onli spread more STDs [05:45] <Afker> however [05:45] <Afker> if you marry your childhood sweetheart [05:46] <Afker> then you won't do turtore (I think), nor have prostitutes [05:46] <Elementasts> dang [05:46] <Afker> in taht case, you can send female captives to th Gal-Burger to work [05:46] <Afker> (it's a fast food place) [05:46] <H-junkie> lol [05:46] <H-junkie> kinda soft fer a mafiaso [05:46] <Afker> one of the things I haven't done yet is to marry her [05:47] <H-junkie> dun [05:47] <H-junkie> u gotta be hard n tough to survive de underworld [05:47] <Afker> also [05:47] <Afker> like rance 5, each core character can have a "fullfilled" ending [05:47] <H-junkie> oooh [05:47] <Afker> if they get that ending, then when you replay the game, they'd be stronger [05:49] <Afker> each character can learn one special attack through training [05:49] <H-junkie> dats cool [05:49] <Afker> some are "amplified damage", "evade up", etc [05:49] <Afker> my favorite is one that looks like red hammer [05:50] <H-junkie> wats dat do? [05:50] <Afker> that's the one that does regular damage, except it'll never kill [05:50] <H-junkie> ahhh [05:50] <Afker> so enemy will at least have 1 life left [05:50] <H-junkie> so u capture all ur enemies [05:50] <Afker> so you can capture [05:50] <Afker> yup [05:50] <H-junkie> ur too kind to be a mafiaso lord afker [05:51] <Afker> capture is good [05:51] <Afker> that's how you get most of the core characters to join [05:51] <H-junkie> in de game sense it it...use everything u can [05:54] <Afker> I think I covered the basic gameplay [05:55] <Afker> income/expenditures (protecting fee, salary for subordinates) is calculated at the 4th week of each month I think [05:55] <H-junkie> at last...sumting ur not sure bout [05:56] <Afker> either 4th or 1st [05:56] <Afker> it's been a while [05:56] <H-junkie> hehe

Chapter 2: "How To Play"
Session Start: Fri May 03 00:32:58 2002 [00:33] <H-junkie> yesh~!! [00:34] <Afker> hold on, I wanna at least also wait for Elementasts [00:34] <Elementasts> eh? [00:34] <Afker> tutorial [00:34] <Elementasts> k [00:34] <Afker> getting ready? [00:35] <Elementasts> how so? [00:35] <Afker> I'm going to go through first the "how to play" section [00:35] <Elementasts> ah [00:37] <Afker> ok [00:37] <Afker> I'm going to describe the "how to play" section now [00:38] <Afker> so there, cuz you can also see the same pictures [00:38] <Afker> after you click on "how to play", a new screen shows up [00:39] <Afker> with lots of buttons [00:39] <Afker> the top centered button, don't click on it, plays through all the sections [00:39] *** kapipo has joined #Alice_In_Hgameland [00:39] !list [00:39] <Elementasts> yea [00:39] <Afker> we will start on the upper left section [00:39] <Elementasts> I tried that once [00:39] <Afker> and zig-zag down [00:40] <Elementasts> wheres H-junkie? [00:40] <Afker> he was here 7 min ago [00:40] <Afker> H-junkie: respond [00:41] <Afker> talk to us, junie [00:41] <Afker> junkie [00:41] <Elementasts> :/ [00:41] <Afker> dont' die [00:41] <Elementasts> DONT DIEEEE [00:41] <Elementasts> BUHUHUHU [00:41] <Elementasts> T_T [00:41] <Elementasts> hehe [00:42] <Elementasts> I like the music of Daiakuji [00:42] <Elementasts> fits the setting [00:42] <Afker> hehe [00:43] <Afker> so [00:43] <Afker> the first button on the left [00:43] <H-junkie> i'm here [00:43] <Afker> "The very beginning" [00:43] <Afker> mmm [00:44] <Afker> wait, it's a bit hard to read... let me parse it [00:44] <H-junkie> eh?...i'm hete..... [00:44] <Elementasts> k [00:44] <Afker> lag? [00:44] <Afker> anyways [00:44] <H-junkie> yoo hoo? [00:44] <Afker> "Good day. Now is the "How-to Daiakuji" time [00:44] <H-junkie> no wan can see my text? [00:44] <Afker> the lecturers are K-Yashi and P-ko [00:45] <H-junkie> eh? [00:45] <H-junkie> i dun get it....... [00:45] <H-junkie> I'M HERE~!! [00:45] <H-junkie> lol [00:45] <H-junkie> i c [00:45] <Afker> H-junkie said "yoo hoo?" at 00:44, right now it's 00:45 for me [00:46] <Afker> "because Daiakuji is a complicated game, those who are newcomers to simulations games should definitley read this" [00:46] <Afker> I'm skipping stuff, and summarizing them [00:46] <Afker> The object of the game, is to unify Oosaka [00:47] <H-junkie> uh-huh.. [00:48] <Afker> so you conquer lands and expand your territories [00:48] <H-junkie> eh? [00:48] <Afker> the way to expand your territories is by fights [00:48] <H-junkie> K-Yashi.....P-ko? [00:48] <Afker> by defeating your opponents through fights, you take over their territories [00:48] <Afker> K-yashi is the guy with green text [00:49] <H-junkie> lol [00:49] <H-junkie> serious lag [00:49] <Afker> P-ko is the girl with purple text [00:49] <Afker> P: "however, at first you only have 3 girls in your party" [00:50] <Afker> K: while that's true, it's not impossible to increase your followers [00:50] <Afker> P: how? [00:50] <Afker> K: there are different ways [00:51] *** kazami_hayato has joined #Alice_In_Hgameland [00:51] <Afker> K: basically, you can capture enemies who you defeated in fights, and bribe them to join [00:51] <kazami_hayato> ??? [00:51] <kazami_hayato> what is this abour? [00:51] <Afker> then some stuff I can't translate [00:51] <Afker> next screen [00:51] <H-junkie> uh-huh. [00:51] <Afker> kazami: we are doing Daiakuji tutorial now [00:52] <kazami_hayato> Z__Z [00:52] <Afker> the fist thing is to ensure you have enough funds. fighting requires funds [00:52] * kazami_hayato goto sleep soon [00:52] <Afker> to get rid of bad things require funds [00:53] <Afker> of course paying your followers salary require funds [00:53] <Afker> next, you need to manage your followers [00:53] <Afker> if you just leave them there, their loyality will decrease [00:54] SHINING FINGER SWORD! [00:54] <Afker> to prevent that, you can give them bonus [00:54] <Afker> P: and that requries money... [00:54] <Afker> next screen [00:54] <Afker> next is area management [00:55] <Afker> once you control a territory but have no crime control, it'll become a lawless land [00:55] <H-junkie> daiakuji tutorial [00:56] <Afker> wow [00:56] <Afker> H-junkie has series lag [00:56] <Afker> a 4 min lag maybe [00:57] <Afker> to run your organization, youcan build various infrastruftures, control businesses and shops, and sometimes take care of incidents that arise [00:58] <Afker> <don't take my typing as translation word for word btw. I'm just grabbing what I recognize, and make stuff up about them> [00:58] <Afker> there are lots of other jobs to do to control the areas [00:58] <kazami_hayato> hmmm [00:58] <kazami_hayato> k [00:58] <Afker> if you andle them well, your organization becomes stronger [00:59] <Afker> defeat your enemies [00:59] <Afker> expand territories [00:59] <AfkServ> 04 (  03 TDCC   04)   T rigger: 04 (  03 Chiho I love you!!!   04)   S ize: 04 (  03 10.9kb   04)   D escription: 04 (  03 Tsumamigui basic gameplay guide version 0.3) Requesting:(See In Ao <AliceSoft game> and words_worth_disc_02.part05.rar   04)   R ecord CPS: 04 (  03 10.9kb/s by AznMTboy   04)   S ends: 04 (  03 0/unlimited   04)   Q ueues: 04 (  03 0/5   04)   D ownloads: 04 (  03 91   04)   04ｫ~ 03 {  04 UPP  03 }  04~ｻ [00:59] <Afker> then you'll be able to unify Oosaka [00:59] <Afker> that's the basics [00:59] <Afker> next button: the top right one [00:59] <Afker> How to get money (basic chapter) [01:00] <Afker> next screen [01:00] SHINING FINGER SWORD! [01:00] <Afker> the numbers in green and circled, is the collect ability of each character [01:00] <Afker> they are added up to a sum that's shown below [01:01] <Afker> so second row [01:01] <Afker> the left is the sum of collect ability of all characters [01:01] <H-junkie> isn't dat good? [01:01] *** bakabaka has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer ) [01:01] <H-junkie> hey.its u wif de serious lag~!! [01:01] <Afker> to the immediate right, in yellow box, is the sum of the Helping Fund [01:02] <Elementasts> hehe [01:02] <Elementasts> XD [01:02] <Afker> really bad lag you have there [01:02] <H-junkie> its neva ME XD [01:03] *** Guest29197 is now known as Cyath [01:03] <Afker> so, the yellow box has the max you can collect from that district [01:03] <Afker> as you can see, in this district, your characters can collect a max of 200 protection fees [01:04] <Afker> but the district itself only allows 100 to be collected [01:04] *** bakabaka has joined #Alice_In_Hgameland [01:04] <Afker> next screen [01:04] <Afker> the top character [01:04] <Afker> has collect ability of 100 [01:04] <Afker> while salary is 200 [01:05] <Afker> the second person, the girl, has collect ability of 100 also, but salary is only 20 [01:05] *** bakabaka has quit IRC (Quit: ) [01:06] <Afker> K-yashi says: the top guy is an example of a non-economical follower, and the bottom person is an example of economical follower [01:06] <Afker> P-ko point out that, in the case of the top character, you'll see that he has high battle skills, so still worth it [01:07] <Afker> <in the background is the monthly finance screen> [01:07] <Afker> the 500 that got circled, isyour current budget [01:07] *** kapipo has quit IRC (typhoon.va.us.dal.net valhall.hub.eu.dal.net ) [01:07] *** kazami_hayato has quit IRC (typhoon.va.us.dal.net valhall.hub.eu.dal.net ) [01:07] <Afker> the big red button at bottom left is to apply for loans [01:08] <Afker> at the beginning of the game you should apply for loans [01:09] <Afker> when doing finances, you should consider firing those who has low collect ability and no battle skills [01:09] *** Xcaliberium has joined #Alice_in_Hgameland [01:09] <Xcaliberium> Hello ALl [01:09] <Xcaliberium> Hello All [01:09] <Afker> good timing [01:09] <Xcaliberium> me cable works again aya [01:09] <Afker> we are in the middle of the tutorial [01:10] <Xcaliberium> sweeet [01:10] <Afker> someone can send you the log later [01:10] <Xcaliberium> k [01:10] <Afker> run the game [01:10] <Afker> click on the big "How to play" botton [01:10] * Xcaliberium just wonders why the evil mistress girl gets raped [01:10] <Xcaliberium> k [01:10] <Afker> the doctor guy use drugs and took over the organization [01:11] <Afker> the huge ogre guy is his follower [01:11] <Afker> anyways [01:11] <Afker> you should keep those who have low collect ability, but high battle skills [01:12] <Xcaliberium> oh [01:12] <Xcaliberium> k me is there [01:12] <Elementasts> Ssssh [01:12] <Cyath> dammit [01:12] <Afker> other thigns to consider are law enforcement abilities, and loyality types [01:12] <Afker> hi Cyath! [01:12] <Cyath> now i really want to play daiakuji... [01:12] <Cyath> only 5 more hours to go [01:12] <Afker> you alreayd have to CD image [01:12] <Afker> are you on 98 or XP? [01:13] <Afker> 30 min and the 98 friendly version will be done [01:13] <Afker> the big red button on the bottom right is the fire follower button [01:13] <Afker> in case you really don't have money to keep them around [01:13] <Afker> next screen (third one not counting the title) [01:14] <Afker> you can take over shops and businesses in districts [01:14] *** Disconnected [01:14] -vision.kl.my.dal.net- *** Looking up your hostname... [01:14] -vision.kl.my.dal.net- *** Checking Ident [01:14] -vision.kl.my.dal.net- *** Got Ident response [01:14] *** Attempting to rejoin... [01:14] *** Rejoined channel #Alice_In_Hgameland [01:14] *** Topic is 'Daiakuji online-tuturial, 12:30 PST in this channel | Comment, discuss, and share AliceSoft games ( http://www.comike.com/php/list_per_brand.phtml?brand_id=109 ) here, or other innovative H-games | Timers 1 hour+ please | no harassing people ' [01:14] *** Set by Afker on Thu May 02 22:28:22 [01:15] <Afked> >_<" [01:15] <Afked> the top is after to take over the blue-roof house [01:15] <Afked> the middle shows the stats before you take over [01:15] <Afked> (if you haven't taken over it, the icon for that business will be red) [01:15] <Afked> anways, you can see that before you took over the "long house", its background is red [01:16] <Afker> as you can see, in this district, your characters can collect a max of 200 protection fees [01:16] <Afker> but the district itself only allows 100 to be collected [01:16] <Afked> and it contributes 0 yen [01:16] *** bakabaka has joined #Alice_In_Hgameland [01:16] <Afker> next screen [01:16] <Afked> omg [01:16] <Afker> the top character [01:16] <Afker> has collect ability of 100 [01:16] <Afker> while salary is 200 [01:16] <Afked> bad lag on this server [01:16] <Afked> I'm seeing text I typed a long time ago [01:17] <Afker> the second person, the girl, has collect ability of 100 also, but salary is only 20 [01:17] <H-junkie> hmmmm....... [01:17] *** bakabaka has quit IRC (Quit: ) [01:17] <Afker> K-yashi says: the top guy is an example of a non-economical follower, and the bottom person is an example of economical follower [01:18] <Afker> P-ko point out that, in the case of the top character, you'll see that he has high battle skills, so still worth it [01:18] <Afker> <in the background is the monthly finance screen> [01:18] <Afker> the 500 that got circled, isyour current budget [01:18] *** kapipo has quit IRC (typhoon.va.us.dal.net valhall.hub.eu.dal.net ) [01:18] *** kazami_hayato has quit IRC (typhoon.va.us.dal.net valhall.hub.eu.dal.net ) [01:18] <Afker> the big red button at bottom left is to apply for loans [01:18] <Afker> at the beginning of the game you should apply for loans [01:18] <Afker> when doing finances, you should consider firing those who has low collect ability and no battle skills [01:18] *** Xcaliberium has joined #Alice_in_Hgameland [01:18] <Xcaliberium> Hello ALl [01:18] <Xcaliberium> Hello All [01:18] <Xcaliberium> me cable works again aya [01:18] <Afker> good timing [01:19] <Afker> we are in the middle of the tutorial [01:19] <Xcaliberium> sweeet [01:19] <Afker> someone can send you the log later [01:19] <Xcaliberium> k [01:19] <Afker> run the game [01:19] <Afker> click on the big "How to play" botton [01:19] * Xcaliberium just wonders why the evil mistress girl gets raped [01:19] <Xcaliberium> k [01:19] <Afker> the doctor guy use drugs and took over the organization [01:19] <Xcaliberium> oh [01:19] <Afker> the huge ogre guy is his follower [01:19] <Xcaliberium> k me is there [01:19] <Afker> anyways [01:19] <Elementasts> Ssssh [01:19] <Afked> "Ping" [01:19] <Afker> you should keep those who have low collect ability, but high battle skills [01:19] <Afker> other thigns to consider are law enforcement abilities, and loyality types [01:20] <Afker> hi Cyath! [01:20] <Afker> you alreayd have to CD image [01:20] <Afker> are you on 98 or XP? [01:20] <Afker> 30 min and the 98 friendly version will be done [01:20] *** Afker has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer ) [01:20] <Xcaliberium> 1000 dollar house is for? [01:20] *** kazami_hayato has joined #Alice_In_Hgameland [01:20] *** kapipo has joined #Alice_In_Hgameland [01:21] <AfkServ> testing [01:21] *** bakabaka has joined #Alice_In_Hgameland [01:21] *** bakabaka has left #Alice_In_Hgameland [01:21] !list [01:21] SHINING FINGER SWORD! [01:21] <H-junkie> o man.laggin like hell..... [01:21] <Elementasts> Afker [01:21] <AfkServ> someone respond to me now [01:21] <Xcaliberium> ?? [01:21] <AfkServ> so I can see how the lag is [01:21] <Elementasts> what does the bottom red button do? [01:22] <AfkServ> [01:13] <Afker> the big red button on the bottom right is the fire follower button [01:22] <AfkServ> [01:13] <Afker> in case you really don't have money to keep them around [01:22] <AfkServ> [01:13] <Afker> next screen (third one not counting the title) [01:22] <AfkServ> [01:14] <Afker> you can take over shops and businesses in districts [01:22] <AfkServ> [01:14] *** Disconnected [01:22] <Elementasts> hmmm [01:22] <Elementasts> pls go on [01:22] <AfkServ> I'm gong to say "Ping", and someone say "Pong" right after [01:22] <AfkServ> so I can test the lag [01:22] *** Sp|47 has joined #alice_in_hgameland [01:22] <Elementasts> pong [01:22] <Elementasts> oh man [01:22] <AfkServ> Ping2 [01:22] <Elementasts> pong [01:22] <Elementasts> pong [01:22] <Elementasts> pong [01:22] <Elementasts> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH [01:22] <Elementasts> hehe [01:22] <Elementasts> XD [01:22] <AfkServ> ok [01:22] <AfkServ> afker is on a laggy server [01:22] <AfkServ> I mean [01:22] <H-junkie> i have a 1 min lag at least now....... [01:22] <AfkServ> yeah [01:22] <Elementasts> not really [01:22] <Elementasts> I got both instantly [01:22] <Elementasts> both pings [01:22] <Sp|47> o damn....i'm laggin.. [01:22] <AfkServ> Afker didn't see the pong [01:22] <AfkServ> hav'ent seen the pon yet [01:23] <Xcaliberium> pong? [01:23] <AfkServ> he just heard himself say "Hey Cyath" [01:23] <AfkServ> pong [01:23] <AfkServ> to xcal [01:23] <Xcaliberium> your ping reply is 2seconds [01:23] <AfkServ> that's afkserv [01:23] <AfkServ> not afker [01:23] -NickServ- The nick Afked  is not registered. [01:23] <Sp|47> ping? [01:23] <AfkServ> you know it's lagging when you are seeing stuff yourself said 8 minutes ago in the buffer [01:23] <AfkServ> pong [01:23] <Sp|47> pong? [01:23] <AfkServ> wait [01:23] <Sp|47> ping pong [01:23] <AfkServ> now h-junkie just said o man, laging like hell [01:23] <AfkServ> but both of us got it [01:23] <AfkServ> afker and afkserv [01:24] <Elementasts> can you resume the tutorial with the part about the red buttong at the right? [01:24] <AfkServ> maybe h-junkie and after are on the same laggy server [01:24] <AfkServ> sorry [01:24] <Xcaliberium> that is fire people he said [01:24] <Elementasts> yes [01:24] <Xcaliberium> use it to get rid of people you don't want [01:24] <Elementasts> but I didnt catch the htings after that [01:24] <AfkServ> or if you don't have enough moeny to pay everyone [01:24] [Sp|47 PING] [01:24] <Elementasts> ok [01:24] <Elementasts> go on [01:24] <AfkServ> pong to sp}47 [01:24] <AfkServ> ok [01:24] <AfkServ> so you alrady heard the next screen? [01:24] <Sp|47> [ 12N ]  CTCP  12PING   14reply  from   12AfkServ  : 39.276 seconds [01:24] <Elementasts> what next screen? [01:24] <Sp|47> dats bad [01:24] <AfkServ> so, before you take control of the "long house", it contributes 0 yen to the max collectability of the district [01:25] <Sp|47> [ 12N ]  CTCP  12PING   14reply  from   12Afked  : 1 minute, 19.294 seconds [01:25] <Elementasts> wait [01:25] <Sp|47> dats worse XD [01:25] <Elementasts> do you want us to go to the next screen now? [01:25] <AfkServ> yeah [01:25] <Sp|47> go on, to next screen [01:25] <Elementasts> k [01:25] <AfkServ> after the monthly finance [01:25] <Sp|47> i got all dat u say milord [01:25] <AfkServ> lemme repeat what I said above [01:25] <H-junkie> yay [01:25] <H-junkie> not laggin now [01:25] <Sp|47> [ 12N ]  CTCP  12PING   14reply  from   12H-junkie  : 22.332 seconds [01:25] <AfkServ> [1:16am] <+Afked> the top is after to take over the blue-roof house [01:25] <AfkServ> [1:16am] <+Afked> the middle shows the stats before you take over [01:25] <AfkServ> [1:16am] <+Afked> (if you haven't taken over it, the icon for that business will be red) [01:25] <AfkServ> [1:16am] <+Afked> anways, you can see that before you took over the "long house", its background is red [01:25] <AfkServ> [1:16am] <+Afked> and it contributes 0 yen [01:25] <Afked> yeah [01:25] <Afked> the server caught up [01:25] *** Sp|47 has quit IRC (Quit: irc N 7.26a + 7.0 for mIRC (2001/04/07 02.00) ) [01:25] <Afked> not laggy anymore [01:25] <Xcaliberium> [H-junkie PING reply]: 2secs [01:26] <H-junkie> whooOooo~ [01:26] <H-junkie> at last [01:26] <Afked> but after to take control of it [01:26] <H-junkie> go on :] [01:26] <Afked> it contributes 150 yen to the collectability of the district [01:26] <Afked> so on the lower one, you see max collectability is 100yen [01:27] <Afked> actuall, it's 100`0000 yen [01:27] <Elementasts> is there any way to know how much collectibility a building will contribute before you buy it? [01:27] <Afked> no [01:27] <Afked> or [01:27] <Afked> save and load [01:27] <Afked> cuz it's fixed [01:27] <Elementasts> k [01:27] SHINING FINGER SWORD! [01:27] <Elementasts> go on pls [01:27] <Afked> and on the top you see total is 150'0000 yen [01:28] <Afked> I'm jsut going to call it 150 [01:28] <Afked> 250, sorry [01:28] <Afked> typo [01:28] <Afked> now [01:28] <Afked> look at bottom left [01:28] <Afked> two Kanji are circled [01:28] <Afked> that term means "take over" [01:29] <Afked> it's in the district action area [01:29] <Afked> to the left is the name of the thing, and the right (the circled words) is the action you want to take [01:29] <Afked> so, even though diff districts will have different businesses, you can always find the option to take over them [01:30] <Afked> cuz they'll all have that circled term there [01:30] <Afked> so maybe screenshot that and learn it [01:30] <Elementasts> hehe [01:30] <Xcaliberium> hehe now which screen would you be on [01:30] <Afked> you need to have stationed followers in a district in order to take control over businesses there [01:31] <Afked> next screen [01:31] <Xcaliberium> next screen of which screen? [01:31] <Afked> there are 4 levels of law-enfourcement level [01:31] <Afked> under the top right button inside "how to play" [01:32] <Xcaliberium> k [01:32] <Afked> this screen deals with law enforcement levels, which is the bottom right corner of those district screens [01:32] <Afked> so, there are 4 levels [01:32] <Afked> blue is "Good" [01:32] <Afked> green is "Normal" [01:32] <Afked> red is "Worsening", I'm calling it "Bad" for short [01:33] <Afked> and red is "Lawless", I'm calling it "Chaos" for short [01:33] <H-junkie> eh? [01:33] <H-junkie> 2 red? [01:33] <Afked> ? [01:33] <Afked> only one red [01:33] <H-junkie> < 06+Afked > red is "Worsening", I'm calling it "Bad" for short [01:33] <H-junkie> [  4:45pm  ]  < 06+Afked > and red is "Lawless", I'm calling it "Chaos" for short [01:33] <H-junkie> [  4:45pm  ]  < 04@H-junkie > eh? [01:33] SHINING FINGER SWORD! [01:33] <Afked> oh [01:33] <Afked> yellow [01:33] <H-junkie> i c [01:33] <Afked> yellow is Bad [01:33] <Xcaliberium> yellow then red [01:33] <Afked> red is chaos [01:33] <Xcaliberium> k [01:34] <Afked> if a district is Bad, then you only collect half the money you are supposed to get [01:34] <Xcaliberium> how do you station guys [01:34] <Afked> if it's chaos, then you can't collect anymoney from there [01:34] <Afked> that's in different section [01:34] <Afked> in addition [01:34] <Xcaliberium> k [01:35] <Afked> if a district is "Good", then in the district event options, you can pick a "Increase HelpFund (Collectability) Movement) [01:35] <Elementasts> what does that look like? [01:35] <Afked> which will increase the base collectability of that district (but you need to have ppl stationed in that district to do it) [01:35] <Afked> if it's available, it'll always be the first option I think [01:35] <Elementasts> ok [01:35] <Afked> I'll let you know if it shows up [01:36] <Afked> next screen [01:36] <H-junkie> will de ppl stationed there have affect on de Increase HelpFund (Collectability) Movement)? [01:36] <Afked> ok, I see it [01:36] <Afked> H-junkie: don't think so [01:36] <H-junkie> i c [01:37] <Afked> the top you see effect of after the Increase HelpFund Movement, and below that you see the stats before [01:37] <Xcaliberium> what are the numbers in the Green and yellow boxes mean? [01:37] <Afked> the base collectability went from 110 to 120, and total went from 260 to 270 [01:37] <Xcaliberium> nm [01:37] <Elementasts> wait [01:37] <Elementasts> where'd you get the 110? [01:37] <Afked> of course, not highlighted, you see the sum of your followers' collect ability is only 170, so total money you get is still 170 [01:38] <Afked> the midde [01:38] <Afked> before [01:38] <Afked> the top is after [01:38] <Elementasts> yes [01:38] <Elementasts> but where is the 110 from? [01:38] <Afked> below [01:38] <Elementasts> I see where it is [01:39] <Afked> if you follow the pink double-arrow from 120 [01:39] <Elementasts> where are you getting it from? [01:39] <Afked> it'll point you to 110 [01:39] <Elementasts> Afker [01:39] <Elementasts> I SEE it [01:39] <Xcaliberium> it is there as an example [01:39] <Elementasts> but I dont know [01:39] <Elementasts> what gives that 110 to you [01:39] <Afked> that's the basic collectability of the district [01:39] <Afked> each district has a different base collectability [01:39] <Elementasts> ah [01:39] <Elementasts> ok [01:40] <H-junkie> lol [01:40] <Xcaliberium> does it cost more money/month to have guys for Defense/Attack? [01:40] * H-junkie knocks Elementasts head [01:40] <Afked> total collectibility = base of the district + any additional contributions from businesses you took over [01:40] <H-junkie> baka [01:40] <H-junkie> pay attentiojn in class [01:40] <Afked> Xcal: ? [01:40] <Afked> it cost money to do fights [01:40] <Xcaliberium> for the green boxed number I had 970 [01:41] <Xcaliberium> is that bad or good [01:41] <Afked> that's good, except it's capped by the yellow [01:42] <Afked> basically, what you get is the max out of the green and the yellow [01:42] <Afked> so it's best in terms of money to have the two equal [01:42] <Elementasts> actually thats bad [01:42] <Afked> so you can put your guys else were and collect from other districts [01:42] <H-junkie> ahhh...so dez ka [01:42] <Elementasts> because your concentrating on one district [01:42] <Xcaliberium> oh so if yellow is 300 and green is 600 then all me get is 300+300 [01:42] <Elementasts> spread out your people a bit more [01:42] <Afked> allyou get is 300 [01:42] * Xcaliberium has only 1 district [01:43] <Afked> green is the max your ppl can collect [01:43] <Xcaliberium> oh [01:43] <Xcaliberium> so 300 yellow is max anything over is a waste [01:43] <H-junkie> yellow is de max de district can provide [01:43] <Afked> the yellow is the max that can be collect from the district [01:43] <Afked> it's like, green is how many bullets you have, yellow is how many targets [01:43] <Afked> assume you never miss, and one bullet kills one target [01:43] <Xcaliberium> so all the extra is sorta wasted [01:43] <Afked> how many target can you kill [01:44] <Afked> yup [01:44] <Xcaliberium> well not used [01:44] <Xcaliberium> k [01:44] <Xcaliberium> that helps so much [01:44] <Afked> yeah, we might've covered that before you showed [01:44] <Afked> d-: [01:44] <Afked> anyways, enxt screen [01:44] <Afked> cyath: the win98 friendly version is done [01:45] <Afked> oh, and it's recommended you play the game with rich win on [01:45] <Afked> turn on richwin first, then NJStar [01:45] <Elementasts> ITS A MUST [01:45] <Elementasts> @_@ [01:45] <Afked> richwin allows a file to be created and then opened so you can see CGs in the cg gallery later [01:45] <Elementasts> unless you want to keep taking screenshits [01:45] <Elementasts> hehe [01:45] <Afked> next screen [01:46] <Elementasts> what do I pick now? [01:46] <Afked> actuall, go back there [01:46] <Afked> you will see the kanji for "Increase HelpFund Movement" there [01:46] <Elementasts> go back? [01:46] <Afked> not highlighted [01:46] <Afked> the screen we were at [01:47] <Elementasts> what it look like? [01:47] <Afked> but it's in the the background [01:47] <Elementasts> ah [01:47] <Afked> that thing [01:47] <Elementasts> the one on top? [01:47] <Afked> it's usually the first option [01:47] <H-junkie> hmmm..... [01:47] <Elementasts> the top option? [01:47] <Afked> when it's available [01:47] <H-junkie> i c [01:47] <Elementasts> the one with 7 characters? [01:47] <Afked> in any district that has law enforcement status [01:47] <Afked> what 7 characters? [01:48] <Elementasts> the Increase help fund thingy [01:48] <Elementasts> is it the one with 7 jap characters? [01:48] <Afked> in any district that has status Good, it should be the first option [01:48] <Afked> oh [01:48] <Afked> yeah [01:48] <Afked> 7 kanji characters [01:48] <Elementasts> k [01:48] <H-junkie> lol [01:48] <Afked> I thought you were talkinga bout 7 people characters [01:48] <Afked> d-: [01:48] <H-junkie> Elementasts wants to be dead sure :] [01:48] <Elementasts> yes [01:48] <Elementasts> I cannot afford mistakes [01:48] <Afked> i got confused cuz I only saw 4, and one of them is a dog [01:48] <Elementasts> I might miss a CG :p [01:49] <Afked> below the option [01:49] <Elementasts> hehe [01:49] <Afked> ok, we go zigzag [01:49] <Afked> so now we are at second button on the left [01:49] <Afked> "Maintaining Loyality" [01:49] <Afked> during the Follower phase [01:50] <Afked> you can use follower commands to give htem bonus, and/or h the girls, to increase loyality [01:50] <Afked> initially that's a good idea, but after a while (when you have over 30 followers for example), it becomes inefficient [01:51] <Afked> and then you should build a Retreat [01:51] <Afked> you can see the retreat building in the background [01:51] <Elementasts> but its 1 thousand [01:51] <Afked> it's the bottom right option [01:51] <Afked> yeah [01:51] <Xcaliberium> 1000 dolla house [01:51] <Afked> that's what P-ko is complaining about [01:51] <Afked> d-: [01:51] <Afked> if you build a Retreat in a district [01:51] <Elementasts> So..big! [01:52] <Afked> actually, its "Ex... Expansive <with exclaimation suffixes>!!" [01:52] <Afked> then for characters stationed in that district, each turn their loyality will increase a bit [01:53] <H-junkie> wow [01:53] <H-junkie> dats worth 1 k [01:53] <Afked> I personally found that one retreat is enought for the entire game [01:53] <Afked> just put the 6 ppl with lowest loyality there [01:53] <Afked> and update every week [01:53] <H-junkie> hmmmm......gotta juggle a bit [01:53] <Afked> yeah [01:54] <Afked> but it will have a net increase effect [01:54] <Elementasts> eh? [01:54] <Afked> more increase for the 6 that are stationed there, than all the decreases from the 50ish of the rest combined [01:54] <H-junkie> 50ish? [01:54] <H-junkie> wats dat mean XD [01:54] <Elementasts> Afker [01:55] <Elementasts> can you rephrase that? [01:55] <Afked> so even if all of them start at 40 loyality, by juggling each week, you can eventually raise all to 80~90's [01:55] <H-junkie> i c [01:55] <Afked> even if you have 60 followers [01:55] <H-junkie> now i comprehend [01:55] <Afked> ok [01:55] <Afked> next [01:55] <Afked> go zigzag [01:55] <Afked> so at second on the right [01:55] <Afked> battle [01:56] <Afked> for characters that have long or mid range attacks, they get to attack first [01:56] <Afked> of course, if both are long or both are mid range, then they still attack simutaneously [01:56] <H-junkie> u mean u n ur enemy? [01:57] <Afked> the guy with long range attack first [01:57] <Afked> whoever that is [01:57] <Afked> cuz the other guy need to move up to attack [01:57] <H-junkie> so if both r long or mid both attack together? [01:58] <Afked> probablity of you counter attacking depends on your remaining stamina [01:58] <Afked> counter attack means you got hit by long range, and go on to attack the enemy [01:59] <H-junkie> counter attack onli works against long ranged attacks? [02:00] <Afked> I think when you are counterattacking, your chance to hit the enemy is higher also, but not very sure [02:00] <Afked> next screen [02:00] <Afked> each character has a base element/characteristic [02:00] <Afked> or alignment [02:00] <Afked> mmm [02:01] <Afked> need a better word [02:01] * Afked things [02:01] <Afked> thinks [02:01] <Elementasts> wait [02:01] <Afked> k [02:01] <Elementasts> what about the picture [02:01] <Elementasts> where AKuji [02:01] <Elementasts> had the numbers 2 and 8 under him [02:01] <Afked> one has stamina 2 and the other 8 [02:01] <Afked> the 2 probaby said "ouch" [02:02] <Afked> the 8 says something like "I'm not finished yet!" [02:02] <Afked> to show that the more stamina, the more likely your character will counterattack [02:02] <Elementasts> ah [02:02] <Elementasts> k [02:02] <Afked> I'll call the thing alignment until I find a better term [02:03] <Afked> so, you can see the character's alignment to the left of his/her name [02:03] <Elementasts> type? [02:03] <Elementasts> character type [02:03] <Afked> and K-yashi is pointing to alignment/type with his hand [02:03] <Afked> the one being highlighted is a pink icon [02:03] <Elementasts> girl-type? [02:03] <Afked> yeah [02:04] <Afked> lemme go down the legend, htough it's not really important, since it's all in pictures [02:04] <Afked> the first one [02:04] <Afked> green mountain, [02:04] <Afked> is the Yamamoto clan [02:04] <Afked> (yama is mountain) [02:04] <Afked> next, the knife, is Gangster/Yakuza [02:04] <Afked> then it's Guy [02:04] <Afked> then Girl [02:04] <Afked> then Cult ppl [02:05] <Afked> then Animal [02:05] <Afked> then Foreigner (pretty much the Americans) [02:05] <Afked> then "Misterious Creatures" (the text says Living Creatures, but I think robots are also included) [02:05] <Afked> last, the Honey icon, is Fantasy [02:06] <Afked> mmm [02:06] <Afked> maybe the robots were Fantasy... oh well [02:07] <Afked> at the bottom of the character status, you see a row of icons. the ones enabled, are the once you are good at fighting [02:07] <Afked> when you fight those you are good against, your chances to hit go up by 30 [02:07] <Afked> so take that into consideration when you are fighting [02:07] <Elementasts> what's the difference between Fantasy and Mystrious ? [02:08] <Afked> dunno [02:08] <Afked> next screen [02:08] <Elementasts> k [02:09] <Afked> the circles highlighted for both ppl are the same [02:09] <Afked> it's shows the person's range [02:09] <Afked> in this case,both are "Close" range [02:09] <Afked> when attack range are the same, you get simutaneous attacks [02:10] <Afked> you see an example [02:10] <Afked> of two iddentical character types, with identical hp, fighitng [02:10] <Afked> the first row, both have 30 hp [02:10] <Afked> both have attack power of 20 [02:10] <Afked> so in the end both end up with 10 [02:10] <Elementasts> wait [02:10] <Afked> ok [02:10] <Elementasts> why are the white characters above them different? [02:11] <Afked> the one on the left says "friend" [02:11] <Afked> the one on the reight says "Foe" [02:12] <Afked> the second row [02:12] <Elementasts> oh [02:12] <Afked> this probably only apply to close range characters [02:12] <Afked> so both have 10hp left, both have power of 20 [02:12] <Afked> they attack [02:12] <Afked> only one dies [02:12] <Afked> whoever attack first survives [02:12] <Afked> I think by attack first it means were assigned first [02:12] <Elementasts> oh [02:13] <Afked> (you know in each round either you assign character to fight first, or enemy does it first) [02:13] <Afked> I think for mid and long ranges, both would die, since they both receive damage after they have fired [02:13] <Afked> or at elast for long range [02:13] <Afked> maybe mid range is same as close range... [02:14] <Afked> next [02:14] <Afked> we go zigzag [02:14] <Afked> so 3rd button on the left [02:14] <Afked> Level Up [02:14] <Afked> Exp A/B [02:14] <Afked> A is current exp [02:14] <Afked> B is exp needed total to level up [02:15] <Afked> when you level up, the extra exp are simply wasted [02:15] <Afked> so even if you have 200 exp when you only need 100 to level up [02:15] <Afked> once you level up, it resets to 0 [02:15] <Afked> so haveing A much greater than B is wasteful [02:16] <Afked> also, not covered here, is htat B increases when you level up [02:16] <Afked> so each time you need more exp to levelup [02:16] <Afked> right side, deals with training [02:16] <Afked> you can train followers in the Follower phase [02:17] <Afked> they'll receive B/2 rounded down amount of exp [02:17] <Afked> so you see if B is 95, you get 47 (from 0) [02:17] <Afked> and if B is 10, you get 5 (form 0) [02:17] <Elementasts> is that the combat training? [02:17] <Afked> yeah [02:18] <Afked> to clarify, [02:18] <Afked> say someone's current exp is 30/100 [02:18] <Elementasts> wait [02:18] <Elementasts> then what does the politicla training do? [02:18] <Afked> after trainign, it'll become 80/100 (30 + 50) [02:18] <Afked> later [02:19] <Afked> and if you train once more from 80/100, then it becomes 130/100 [02:19] <Elementasts> k [02:19] <Afked> actual level up happends at the very end of each week [02:19] <Afked> zigzag, to third on the right "Recovery" [02:20] <Afked> Recovery of Health [02:20] <Afked> If someone is stationed at somewhere, health does not recover [02:20] <Afked> if not stationed, then in one turn will recover 50% of max HP [02:21] <Afked> so it's good idea to control losing of HP at 50% [02:21] <Afked> Stamina recovery: [02:21] <Afked> followers stationed at places recover one bar of stamina per turn/week [02:21] <Afked> non-stationed characters recover 3 per week [02:23] <Afked> hold on [02:24] <Afked> brb [02:30] <Afked> ok, where was i... [02:30] <Afked> so it's optimal to control stamina use to 4 per turn [02:30] <Afked> Luck Recovery: [02:31] <Afked> when health and stamina are fully recovered, luck will recover one point per turn [02:32] <Afked> luck isn't that important a stat, so recover it when you are free, but don't worry too much [02:32] <Afked> ok, next [02:32] <Afked> zigzig to 4th on the left [02:32] <Afked> "Increasing Ppl" [02:33] <Afked> you can capture enemies who's health is less than 10 [02:33] <Afked> at the end of hte battle [02:34] <Afked> the lower the health, the more likely to capture [02:34] <Afked> I personally find that 5 and below is pretty reliable [02:34] <Afked> 1 health is definitly able to capture, but 0 is death [02:34] <Afked> there are characters who you can't capture also [02:35] <Afked> with the "Take it easy" special attack, you'll never reduce enemy's health to below 1, so it's very handy with capturing [02:35] <Afked> so characters with the "Take it easy" skill is really important [02:35] <Afked> in the pictures [02:35] <Afked> the first enemy with HP 2 got caputred "Ok" [02:36] <Afked> the second one with health 8 run away (though it is capturable) [02:36] <Afked> the third one wiht health 30 also escaped "Too bad" (could not be caputred) [02:36] <Afked> everyone still with me? [02:37] <AfkServ> ? [02:38] *** Afked is now known as Afker [02:38] *** Disconnected [02:38] *** Attempting to rejoin... [02:38] *** Rejoined channel #Alice_In_Hgameland [02:38] *** Topic is 'Daiakuji online-tuturial, 12:30 PST in this channel | Comment, discuss, and share AliceSoft games ( http://www.comike.com/php/list_per_brand.phtml?brand_id=109 ) here, or other innovative H-games | Timers 1 hour+ please | no harassing people ' [02:38] *** Set by Afker on Thu May 02 22:28:22 [02:38] <AfkServ> mmm [02:38] <AfkServ> what's the last thing you guys heard from me [02:38] <AfkServ> or, from Afked [02:40] <Afker> anyone still here? [02:41] <Xcaliberium> me is [02:41] <Afker> k [02:42] * Xcaliberium only 1 problem with game Xcali can't make enough money to live [02:42] <Afker> (-: [02:42] <Afker> that'll be covered later too [02:42] <Xcaliberium> I am always redlining [02:42] <Xcaliberium> every month I lose like 400 [02:42] <Afker> we zigzag to battle skill [02:42] <Xcaliberium> and 100 from every time me get attacked [02:43] <Xcaliberium> k [02:43] <Afker> each character can have 1 special skill. [02:43] <Afker> this skill is fixed for special characters (those who have eyes( [02:43] <Afker> and is random for generic characters (those who don't have eyes) [02:44] <Afker> initially none of htem have special skills (with the exception of mercenaries) [02:44] <Afker> they'll obtian their skill the first time you train them [02:45] <Afker> you can tell waht skill a person has by looking at his battle status display, it's located on the top right, right next to the attack range character [02:45] <Afker> you can seed it in the screen [02:45] <Afker> the icon that got highlighted [02:45] <Afker> the red hammer thing is "take it easy" skill. the best in the game [02:46] <Afker> some skills cna be ranked up [02:46] <Afker> a lower rank skill will have a blue dot in the icon [02:46] <Afker> and when it rank up, the dot turn gold, as you can see in the screen [02:47] <Afker> skills that have no dots cannot be ranked up (like the "Take it easy skill" [02:47] <Afker> you rank up the skill by keep training the person (it shows up randomly) [02:48] <Afker> zigzag to second to last on the left [02:48] <Afker> to get more money (building chapter) [02:48] <Afker> octupus house is those traditional japanese eatary places [02:48] <Afker> makes you some money per month [02:49] <Afker> next is automated money-loan machine (shark...) [02:49] <Afker> earns you more money [02:49] <Afker> next is working girl Training House [02:49] <Afker> it doesn't make you money, but it'll train prostitutes [02:50] <Afker> there's this Training Skill points stat, the higher it is, the faster you train [02:50] <Afker> different girls tran at different rate too [02:50] <Afker> to increase training skill poitns, you need to visit a particular district's event [02:51] <Afker> "Oruta Ero" is the name of the place [02:51] <Afker> next screen [02:51] <Afker> the top left is working girl House [02:51] <Afker> you send working girl you've trained to these houses. each house can hold 2 [02:52] <Xcaliberium> and they make you money? [02:52] <Afker> depending on the value of each working girl, they'll make you diff amount of money each month [02:52] <Afker> yes [02:52] <Xcaliberium> that loan shark does it make money? [02:52] <Afker> the higher the value, the more popular they are, so the more ppl they'll service each month [02:52] <Afker> loan shark make syou money [02:52] <Xcaliberium> which makes more loand shark or eatry [02:53] <Afker> only thing htat doens't make money is training house [02:53] <Afker> ? [02:53] <Afker> oh [02:53] <Afker> loan sharks makes more [02:53] <Xcaliberium> 500 is the cost is that monthly? [02:53] <Afker> no [02:53] <Xcaliberium> or a 1 time thing [02:53] <Afker> it's coat to build [02:53] <Afker> 1 time [02:54] <Afker> the money each working girl make is directly porportional to their value [02:54] <Xcaliberium> k what if I buy 1 building next turn buy a different 1 [02:54] <Afker> since higher the value, more customers [02:54] <Xcaliberium> then go back to orignal do I have to pay again? [02:54] <Afker> not porportional, but more like polymonial [02:54] <Afker> yes [02:54] <Afker> cuz you took out th eoriginal [02:54] <Xcaliberium> oh ok [02:54] <Afker> each time you build/change, you pay [02:54] <Xcaliberium> my monthly costs right now is 1280 [02:55] <Xcaliberium> and I make 680 [02:55] <Afker> higher value, more customer. each customer pay the value, so it's like n^2 [02:55] <Afker> you need to expand [02:55] <Afker> more land, more money-makers [02:55] <Xcaliberium> hehe [02:55] <Afker> next is GalBurger [02:55] <Xcaliberium> not easy tho [02:55] <Afker> a chain-store restaurant [02:56] <Xcaliberium> if I take over a place I lose money quicker [02:56] <Xcaliberium> k galburger [02:56] <Afker> you can only build it after you marry someone (and marrying that someone will also shut down all your prostution activities) [02:56] <Xcaliberium> really? [02:56] <Xcaliberium> then this galburger better make alot of money [02:56] <Afker> by sending girls to work at Galburger, it becomes more popular [02:57] <Afker> the more popular it is, the more each chain store makes [02:57] <Xcaliberium> oh ok [02:57] <Afker> max popularity is 40 [02:57] <Xcaliberium> basically it takes the prosties and gives them real jobs [02:57] <Afker> 40 will make you 400 each store [02:57] <Afker> yeah [02:57] <Afker> also [02:57] <Afker> prostitutes' value decrease by 1 for each 100 ppl they serve [02:57] <Afker> though 1 is lowest value [02:58] <Afker> so you need to keep fresh stocks of them to keep money rolling [02:58] <Afker> whereas gal burger is easier [02:58] * Xcaliberium thinks AFKer should send money thingie so he can learn game better and not die 20 turns into game [02:58] <Afker> last but not least, Atomic Power Plant [02:58] <Afker> send? [02:59] * H-junkie is AFK, died.... 悠-n-v-i-s-i-o-n・ [02:59] *** H-junkie is now known as H-junkie[away] [02:59] <Afker> the powerplant makes you 20000 per month [02:59] <Afker> you can only build one [02:59] <Afker> and it's expansive to build [02:59] <Afker> and you won't be able to build it until you go through a very long dungeon (like 13 or 17 levels), [03:00] <Afker> and you won't have access to the dungeon until after very late in the game (after you take out Peach Mountain goup, which is after you take out City Council) [03:00] <Xcaliberium> is it that dungeon in the top middle of map it has a cave [03:00] <Afker> 'no [03:00] <Xcaliberium> oh [03:00] <Afker> it's in one ofhte independent zones surrounded by PM territory [03:01] <Afker> the south region, there's a nuclear blast zone filled with radiation [03:01] <Afker> south east on the map [03:01] <Xcaliberium> yeah I noticed that [03:01] <Afker> zigzag [03:01] <Afker> to last item on the right [03:01] <Xcaliberium> neat little swirly thing like a whirlpool [03:01] <Afker> Law Enforcement [03:01] <Afker> yeah [03:02] <Xcaliberium> will a high law enforcement get rid of those blue thingys that attack girls in my town [03:02] <Afker> Amoung the initial members, Aobara (the blue haired girl) has the best Law Enforcement ability [03:02] <Afker> blue thingys? [03:02] <Xcaliberium> blue birdlike monsters [03:03] <Afker> look like fish? [03:03] <Xcaliberium> yeah [03:03] <Afker> ehh [03:03] <Afker> did you cheat? [03:03] <Xcaliberium> they big and round [03:03] <Xcaliberium> no [03:03] <Afker> and flat [03:03] <Xcaliberium> no [03:03] <Xcaliberium> just big blue and round [03:03] <Xcaliberium> have 40hp [03:03] <Xcaliberium> do 15damage per attack [03:03] <Afker> they should appear yet... [03:03] <Afker> send me a screen shot later to double check [03:03] <Afker> but don't think they are realted [03:03] <Afker> related [03:04] <Afker> in the pic with 4 charcters lined up, [03:04] <Afker> it shows the characters for the four diff abilities [03:04] <Afker> dog is "No ability" [03:04] <Afker> brownhair is "Normal" [03:04] <Afker> blue-hair is "Excellent" [03:05] <Afker> white/gray hair is "Perfect" [03:05] <Elementasts> ok [03:06] <Afker> welcome back Ele (-: [03:06] <Elementasts> took a bath [03:06] <Xcaliberium> those damn things [03:07] <Afker> what the... [03:07] <Afker> those are the "Late Penguins: [03:07] <Xcaliberium> they keep coming after me [03:07] <Xcaliberium> they cause my death [03:07] <Afker> internal to the game [03:07] <Xcaliberium> they drain money [03:07] <Afker> there is a requirement of how many districts you must control after a certain number of rounds [03:08] <Xcaliberium> oh [03:08] <Afker> if you don't have enough [03:08] <Xcaliberium> me still have 1 on like turn 27 [03:08] <Afker> then you are playing the game too slowly [03:08] <Elementasts> wait [03:08] <Afker> so they come after you [03:08] * Xcaliberium is still learning [03:08] <Elementasts> continue tutorial first :p [03:08] <Afker> d-: [03:08] <Afker> ok [03:08] <Afker> mmm [03:09] <Afker> so the total Law Enfourcement power is 99% in that district. that's the max allowed (though you can see it go over 99% on the Follower Assignment phase) [03:09] <Xcaliberium> oh when that mistress girl get's raped is she gone for good? [03:09] <Xcaliberium> or just captured? [03:09] <Afker> for someone who is perfect, that person along will do 99% [03:09] <Afker> one normal perosn is like 70% [03:09] <Afker> one Excellent person is 80 [03:10] <Elementasts> hmm [03:10] <Afker> each additional normal adds 10% I think [03:10] <Elementasts> Xcali dont spoil it XD [03:10] <Afker> so each additional Excellent probably adds 20 [03:10] * Xcaliberium just wants to know [03:10] <Afker> not very sure [03:10] <Afker> No ability is 0% [03:10] <Elementasts> Villains always come back :p [03:10] <Xcaliberium> ccause if she is gone for good then me need to get her before it happens [03:10] <Elementasts> like Kakalo in Mamatoto [03:10] <Afker> next screen [03:10] <Afker> lol [03:10] <Elementasts> he cam eback in Persiom XD [03:11] <Xcaliberium> who? [03:11] <Elementasts> da Evil king [03:11] <Elementasts> XD [03:11] <Afker> you can also maintain law via buildings [03:11] <Xcaliberium> I haven't play persiom [03:11] <Elementasts> oh [03:11] <Elementasts> :( [03:11] <Xcaliberium> and like 10 mins of Mamatoto [03:11] <Afker> the cheap one, costing 100, is a Police-scarcrow [03:11] <Elementasts> uhhh [03:11] <Afker> has low law-enforcement ability [03:11] <Elementasts> lolz [03:11] <Xcaliberium> is that the building with a guy with a wooden sword [03:12] <Elementasts> scarecrow XD [03:12] <Afker> don't remember exactly how much, you can check. proabably 70% [03:12] <Xcaliberium> so if crime is bad then you get no money? [03:12] <Afker> the tower, it releases strange radio waves (brainwashing????) [03:12] <Elementasts> half [03:12] <Afker> and do 99% [03:12] <Elementasts> and then no money [03:12] <Afker> yeah [03:12] <Xcaliberium> that tower costs way to much [03:12] <Afker> if it's Chaos you get no money [03:12] <Elementasts> I think those are tentacles [03:12] <Afker> if bad you get half [03:13] <Xcaliberium> looks like it [03:13] <Afker> those are waves [03:13] <Xcaliberium> purple tentacles [03:13] <Afker> sine waves [03:13] <Elementasts> I have never seen waves that look like that [03:13] <Elementasts> XD [03:13] <Afker> some are co-sine maybe [03:13] <Xcaliberium> hehe [03:13] <Elementasts> it usually look like this [03:13] <Afker> so with a tower, you don't need to station anyone there [03:13] <Elementasts> | ))))) [03:13] <Xcaliberium> so when you going to get into the items and what they do? [03:14] <Elementasts> you dont need to? [03:14] <Elementasts> how you collect money then? [03:14] <Afker> well [03:14] <Elementasts> when no one there? [03:14] <Afker> you need to station ppl to collect money [03:14] <Afker> just odn't need to station ppl to maintain law [03:14] <Elementasts> oh [03:14] <Xcaliberium> those scholl gurls bring in 150 yum [03:14] <Afker> so you ca put ppl with no ability who collects [03:14] <Elementasts> yea [03:14] <Xcaliberium> 2nd last option on hiring [03:15] <Afker> there is this "Safety Recovery Movement" [03:15] <Elementasts> eh? [03:15] * Xcaliberium likes the big older guy wearing all black [03:15] <Afker> I'm going to call "Law Enforcement" Safty now... [03:15] <Xcaliberium> he is so strong [03:15] <Afker> shorter [03:15] <Afker> though not exact [03:16] <Afker> when you have followers stationed at a district, you can do the Safty Recovery Movement, that spends 100 and raises Safty Level to Excellent [03:16] <Elementasts> how many followers needed? [03:16] <Elementasts> and any drawbacks? [03:16] <Afker> the green button being highlighted, in the district mode screen, is the Safty Recover Movement button [03:16] <Afker> 1 [03:16] <Afker> probalby can't use animals [03:17] <Afker> draback: cost 100 [03:17] <Afker> next screen [03:17] <Afker> Riots [03:17] <Afker> when a distict has Chaos safty leve, riots randomly happen [03:18] <Afker> riots will distroy buildings you've built [03:18] <Xcaliberium> http://www.alicesoft.co.jp/akuji/chara.html#top <-who is she? [03:18] <Afker> so you wanna especially avoid it in districts wherde you place the powerplant or the retreat [03:19] <Afker> it's javascript url, so all i see is th elist of all characters [03:19] <Afker> or, 1/3 of it [03:19] <Afker> so to prevent riots, you want to do the safty recovery movment when safty level reaches Bad [03:19] <Elementasts> DONT TELL ME [03:19] <Elementasts> AYIEEE [03:20] <Xcaliberium> ok left to right 2nd row first girl [03:20] <Xcaliberium> keeps showing her for yellow [03:20] <Xcaliberium> and if she dies it is like gameover [03:20] <Afker> second row first girl? [03:20] <Afker> ist's not a girl [03:20] <Cyath> afker, the first cd is 424 Mb [03:20] <Afker> so? [03:21] <Cyath> and the second is 303, yes? [03:21] <Xcaliberium> yeah it is [03:21] <Afker> no [03:21] <Cyath> if so, i have finally finished with the download [03:21] <Afker> 303 is win98 friendly verisoin [03:21] <Afker> same content as first CD [03:21] <Xcaliberium> first girl that is lighted up [03:21] <Cyath> don't i need both cds? [03:21] <Afker> we are on first page right? [03:21] <Xcaliberium> next to the green haired 1 [03:21] <Xcaliberium> yes [03:21] <Afker> Cyath: for 98 friendly, dont' need second CD [03:21] <Cyath> nevermind [03:21] <Cyath> okok [03:21] <Cyath> thanks [03:21] <Xcaliberium> she has brown hair and her hond on chin [03:21] <Cyath> sorry to bother you [03:21] <Afker> row is defined as horizontal [03:22] <Afker> no probl [03:22] <Elementasts> DONT TELL [03:22] <Elementasts> DONT TELL [03:22] <Elementasts> AAAAAH [03:22] <Elementasts> DONT SAY HER NAME [03:22] <Elementasts> X_x [03:22] <Xcaliberium> ?? [03:22] <Afker> cd 2 is 351mb [03:22] <Xcaliberium> I just want to know why it ends when she dies [03:22] <Afker> I don't knowwho [03:23] <Afker> oh [03:23] <Afker> wait [03:23] <Afker> she's not inyour party [03:23] <Xcaliberium> nope [03:23] <Afker> she's the current mayor [03:23] <Xcaliberium> oh [03:23] <Xcaliberium> she lives in the yellow place [03:23] <Afker> so she pretty much can't die [03:23] <Xcaliberium> so she's the mayor [03:23] <Afker> her hand is NOT in chains... [03:23] <Xcaliberium> ok [03:23] <Xcaliberium> never said that [03:24] <Xcaliberium> meant hand on chin [03:24] <Afker> oh [03:24] <Afker> chin/chain... [03:24] <Afker> misread [03:24] <Xcaliberium> hehe [03:24] <Afker> anyways [03:24] <Xcaliberium> is there any reason why i can't take over places to the right of me those light redish purple ones [03:24] <Afker> yeah [03:24] <Afker> purple is PM [03:25] <Afker> can't start war with them yet [03:25] <Afker> that's the reason [03:25] <Afker> d-: [03:25] <Elementasts> aaaauggggh [03:25] <Afker> back to tutorial [03:25] <Elementasts> you told who she is! [03:25] <Elementasts> you told who she is! [03:25] <Elementasts> x_x [03:25] <Afker> well, if you could read japanese [03:25] <Xcaliberium> ok ok [03:25] <Afker> you would know at the end of hte first week [03:25] * Xcaliberium goes back to figure out how to solce money problems [03:25] <Elementasts> oh [03:25] <Elementasts> ok [03:25] <Afker> back to tutorial [03:26] <Afker> when you do Safty Recovery Movement [03:26] <Afker> at a district that is Chaos level [03:26] <Afker> randomly old man would join you and help out [03:26] <Afker> those are just old man who have lots of spare time and are interested in community affairs [03:26] <Xcaliberium> have you went ny what the lvl up stats are [03:26] <Afker> so they help out [03:27] <Afker> they have the "Principle" loyality (ie, never decreases) [03:27] <Afker> they have 0 for salary (free service) [03:27] <Afker> and they have Excellent safty ability [03:27] <Afker> probley is their collect ability is low (50) [03:28] <Afker> and can't fight [03:28] <Afker> still, overall good ppl to have [03:28] <Afker> biggest problem is wiht their age... [03:28] <Afker> randomly each turn, thye might die of old age.... [03:29] <Afker> kinda sad and funny d-: [03:29] <Elementasts> XD [03:29] <Afker> last button on the left is wrap ups [03:29] <Afker> doesn't say much [03:29] <Elementasts> k [03:30] <Afker> so that's it for "How To Play"
 * Logging #Alice_In_Hgameland to 'logs\#alice_in_hgameland 5-03.log'

Chapter 3: Game Interface, and Starting a new game
[03:30] <Afker> now time for interface [03:31] <Afker> start with the windows menu [03:31] <Afker> under File (alt+F) [03:31] <Afker> first one is the fullscreen/windowed toggle, shortcut alt+enter [03:31] <Afker> next is screen shot, shortcut alt+P [03:32] <Xcaliberium> next could you teach us how to read Jap [03:32] <Elementasts> yes, please [03:32] <Elementasts> XD [03:33] <Afker> third is "Reboot System 3.9" [03:33] <Afker> this is convinent when I hack the game, it froze, and I need to reload the game without the hassel of quitting and relaunching it [03:33] <Afker> last is Exit [03:33] <Afker> or Quit actually [03:34] <H-junkie[away]> oooh..fell asleep.....where r we... [03:34] * H-junkie[away] is back from died..... I was gone for 35mins 悠-n-v-i-s-i-o-n・ [03:34] *** H-junkie[away] is now known as H-junkie [03:34] <Afker> the fourth item ont he menu bar is the zoom past text option [03:34] <Afker> which defaults to off [03:34] <Afker> same effect as holding the <CTRL> ley [03:34] <Afker> key [03:34] <Afker> )-: [03:34] <Afker> log it and read d-: [03:34] <Afker> now, at the first screen [03:35] <H-junkie> yes milord [03:35] <Afker> the how-to-play will transform to a territory map once you are playing hte game [03:35] <Afker> below that lists major events that happend in the game [03:35] <H-junkie> ur faithful servant will study ur findings [03:35] <Afker> up to most recent 10 that is [03:36] <Xcaliberium> can you click on them or do you need to read them? [03:36] <Afker> including taking over new districts, new ppl joining you, [03:36] <Afker> just rea [03:36] <Afker> read [03:36] <Xcaliberium> ): [03:36] <Afker> so doesn't help much if you can't read jap, but you can screen shot it and send to me [03:36] <Xcaliberium> well I guess we all can keep taking screen shots and have you tell what each says [03:36] <Afker> right now, year 35, month 1 (january), week 4, it's ays, "Yamamoto Akuji, Japan return country" [03:37] <Afker> ie, you retturned to your home contury which is japan [03:37] <Afker> hehe [03:37] <Afker> it also willl list if a certain organization takes a move (ie, start to attack you, or is destroyed, or other stuff) [03:37] <Afker> to the left [03:38] <Afker> the characters Dai Aku Ji is written in Kanji with brush strokes [03:38] <Afker> beneath that are three buttons [03:38] <Afker> Save, Load, and "Recall H" [03:38] <Afker> ie, the H-gallery [03:38] <Elementasts> it also has a music gallery [03:38] <Afker> learn the words for "Save" and "Load" well, since most J-games have it [03:39] <Afker> yeah, on the last page [03:39] <Afker> I'll cover it later, since my roommate is in the room right now [03:39] <Afker> on the very bottom, I'll call it the status bar [03:39] <Elementasts> k [03:39] <Xcaliberium> on the main screen where you can pick places to visit and if you put mouse over bottom left thing it shows stars in certain regions what do the starts mean? [03:39] <Afker> to the left most, it says "System" using 4 katagana characters [03:39] <Afker> hold on [03:39] <Afker> step by stelp [03:39] <Xcaliberium> k [03:40] <Afker> so when other ppl read the log it will make sense [03:40] <Afker> learn the "System" word well also [03:40] <Afker> since many j-games have a System menu [03:41] <Afker> usually Save, Load, Quit, Settings/Config are among the frequent things in a "System" menu in general j-games [03:41] <Afker> here we have save load, and recall H [03:41] <Afker> next ot it are 3 buttons [03:41] <Afker> "Keep going [to next phase]", "Info", and "Item" [03:42] <Afker> right now only Keep going is enabled, and info and item disabled [03:42] <Afker> after that [03:42] <Elementasts> wait Afker [03:42] <Afker> it shows number of followers (4, including you) [03:42] <Afker> then number of captives (0 right now) [03:42] <Afker> then number of prostitiutes (0 right now) [03:43] <Afker> after that [03:43] <Afker> the box split in to two [03:43] <Afker> the top art displays current dayte (Year/Mohth/Week format) [03:43] <Afker> bottom is the amount of Yen you have, in units of 10000 yen [03:44] <Afker> so 500 is actually 5000000 yen [03:44] <Xcaliberium> woah lotsa money [03:44] <H-junkie> oooh [03:44] <Afker> japanese and chinese use 10000 as delimiators [03:44] * Xcaliberium wonders how many Hgames could be bought [03:44] <Afker> we call it "Wan" [03:44] <H-junkie> "ban" [03:44] <Afker> alanoguous to the american do it in 1000, a thousand [03:44] <Afker> ban in japanese I suppose [03:44] <Afker> d-: [03:44] <Afker> butin the game, the actual unit is 10 [03:45] <Afker> for hacking purposes [03:45] <Xcaliberium> is 500000 alot of money in our time right now [03:45] <Afker> so 500, which is 500`0000 yen, is actually 50 in the game system [03:45] <Xcaliberium> really?/ [03:45] <Afker> that is, if you are hacking the game [03:45] <Afker> yeah [03:45] <H-junkie> ooooh [03:45] <Afker> that's what you look for when editiing money [03:45] <Xcaliberium> and 200 would 20 [03:45] <Afker> I figured it out when hacking rance 5 [03:45] <Afker> yup [03:46] <Xcaliberium> I ses [03:46] <Xcaliberium> sea [03:46] <Afker> took me awhile, but I realized the last digit is always 0, so that's how I figured out [03:46] * Xcaliberium runs off to oven for he don't wanna burn the Grasshopper Stew [03:46] <Afker> lol [03:46] <Afker> now [03:47] <Afker> the initial screen is always the new game mode [03:47] <Afker> so lets click on Keep Going so we can be on the same page [03:47] <Elementasts> k [03:47] * H-junkie is out fer dinner....hunger pangs.... [03:48] <Afker> "That day, an along returning soldier arrives and stands on the port" [03:48] <Afker> alone [03:48] * Afker slaps H-junkie around a bit with a large trout [03:48] <Afker> akuji: I'm finally back [03:48] <Afker> [03:49] * H-junkie is AFK, food....glorious food......will onli be back by tomoraw....pls dun slap me....i'm hungry XD 悠-n-v-i-s-i-o-n・ [03:49] *** H-junkie is now known as H-junkie[away] [03:50] <Elementasts> k [03:50] <Afker> "The name of htis man is Yamamoto Akuji. He is one of the key staff of the Area-Management-System Wakame Group, which rules Oosaka City" [03:51] <Afker> <Area-Management-System is the term for all those groups> [03:51] <Afker> Akuji is htinking aobut his GF [03:51] <Afker> he was fighitn int eh war, whihc is like hell [03:52] <Afker> Oosaka has changed quite a bit since he left it [03:52] <Afker> lots of debrises due to bombardment of the woar [03:52] <Afker> war [03:52] * Xcaliberium slaps Xcaliberium around a bit with a large trout [03:52] <Xcaliberium> oh yeah take that and that [03:52] <Xcaliberium> ouch [03:52] <Afker> even though the war has been over for a year, the scars of war is still showing [03:53] <Afker> akuji was a captured soldier of the country that lost the war [03:53] <Afker> and he's finally able to return [03:54] <Afker> as Akuji thinks about the time he got captured, he rubs his teeth [03:54] <Elementasts> huh? [03:55] <Afker> a drunk guy appeared, commenting on the war, noting Akuji is probalby a returning soldier since he is at the port [03:55] <Afker> commented on how he himself (the drunk) avoided being drafted [03:55] <Afker> asked for money, and put his hand on Akuji's shoulder [03:55] <Afker> akuji beat the drunk up, who ran away [03:56] <Afker> akuji comments on no wonder Japan lost to war to US, considering it's now filled with losers [03:57] <Afker> he's now eager to meet his GF [03:57] <Afker> Minka [03:57] <Afker> who he hasn't seen for 3 years [04:00] <Elementasts> k [04:02] <Afker> he misses her a lot [04:02] <Elementasts> pls go on [04:02] <Afker> and he wants to go back to his organization too, thinking there'll be a huge welcome party [04:02] <Afker> sorry, was helping roommate with his CS project [04:02] <Elementasts> CS?!?! [04:02] <Afker> Comp Sci [04:02] <Elementasts> oh [04:02] <Elementasts> :( [04:02] <Afker> and akuji is a bit hungry [04:03] <Afker> so he goes back to the home he hasn't seen in 3 years [04:03] <Afker> the inside fo the city seems relative untouched by war [04:03] <Afker> the paces where Minka live [04:04] <Afker> he's going to check out Oosugi, your fighting master, (I htink you entrusted protecting Minka to him while you were away) [04:05] <Afker> a guy shows up [04:05] <Afker> "Hey, isn't this Akuji?" [04:05] <Afker> Akuji: "Long time no see" [04:05] <Afker> guy: "So you are still alive afterall..." [04:06] <Afker> akuji: "of course. this war can't kill me" [04:06] <Afker> guy: "ah, but..." [04:06] <Afker> akuji: what's wrong? [04:06] <Afker> guy: ehh... nothing... well... [04:07] <Afker> akuji: could it be <somehting bad, not sure what it is>...? [04:08] <Elementasts> k [04:09] <Afker> guy: no, it's fine [04:09] <Afker> akuji: phew, scared me for a bit [04:09] <Afker> guy: ha.. hai [04:10] <Afker> akuji: well, today I get back, I htink there'll probably be a big party [04:10] <Afker> akuji: that'd be great. laters! [04:10] <Afker> akuji walk towrs his home, humming a tune [04:11] <Afker> guy: akuji-san, [04:12] <Afker> akuji is happy to see his house untouched [04:12] <Afker> he goes back, and announces hsi return [04:12] <Afker> a gangester come out [04:12] <Afker> "who is it, ehhh...? young master!? [04:13] <Afker> akuji" oi oi, is htis how you welcome back your youngmaster who got back from battlefield?" [04:14] <Afker> he keeps talkign stuff, ask ppl to bring out the sake [04:14] <Afker> takes off his boots [04:14] <Afker> <japanese ppl don't wear shoes into their houses> [04:14] <Afker> "Don't be so quick, the original young master" [04:15] <Afker> then the mistress shows up [04:15] <Elementasts> the original young master? [04:15] <Elementasts> XD [04:15] <Afker> "oh, it's Ran. what do you mea by that?" [04:16] <Afker> the the guy, Kamio, says "I'll explain that" [04:16] <Afker> he's a new guy who akuji doesn't recognize [04:16] <Afker> he speaks funny [04:17] <Afker> akuji: "Ran, what's up with this guy?" [04:17] <Afker> akuji: "Isn't this the place of my group? Where's Father? Grandpa?" [04:18] <Afker> Kamio: "Hai, your fatoher,, has died" [04:18] <Afker> akuji: "what?" [04:19] <Afker> Kamio: "Hai, half a year ago, death report (from war) was received" [04:19] <Afker> akuji: father... [04:19] <Afker> Kamio: "Hai, that's how it is, hai" [04:19] <Afker> <kamio says "hai" a lot, so he's funny> [04:19] <Elementasts> hehe [04:21] <Afker> kamio: Your grand father Ippatsu said "I'm going to meet someone stronger than I", and disappeared [04:22] <Afker> akuji was angry and commented on his grandpa, about son's death (grapdpa's son = akuji's dad) [04:22] <Afker> kamio: that time, hai [04:23] <Afker> kamio: Umi (americans) teaching directives, adopted, hai [04:23] <Afker> akuji: teaching directigves? [04:23] <Afker> kamio: hai, that's it, hai [04:24] <Afker> Kamio: the opponent country during the war US, said to be Femail Supremicy country, know about it? [04:25] <Afker> akuji: yeah, I learnd it from the captive concentration camps [04:25] <Afker> kamio: We japan, lost to US, hai [04:25] <Afker> kamio: the result of that... [04:26] <Afker> kamio: japan has followed US's footsteps, place Females on the top with absolute ruling power [04:26] <Afker> akuji: what kind of nonsense! [04:27] <Afker> akuji: why does japan listen to the command of US which we hate? [04:27] <Afker> kamio: that's the sadness of the country that lost the war, hai [04:28] <Afker> kamio: when happatsu (dad's name) 's death was received, hai, we couldn't get a hold of Ippatsu-sama (grand pa) nor akuji-sama [04:28] <Afker> hai [04:29] <Afker> kamio: and there's the US's teaching directives [04:29] <Afker> so now Ichihashi Ran-sama has become the head of Wakame group, hai, that's it [04:31] <Afker> akuji: Ran you bitch! you forgot the kindness of my grandpa and usurped the position... [04:32] <Afker> <kindness is not quite the word. it's a asian thing maybe. means someone helped you in the past, and you owe that person> [04:32] <Afker> anyways [04:32] <Afker> Ran comes out and says it's now the era of female rules [04:32] <Afker> Ran: times have changed. you only have yourself to hate [04:33] <Afker> and she called Ai out [04:33] <Afker> Akuji and Ai argue [04:33] <Afker> and you guys fight [04:34] <Afker> outnumbered 6 to 1, you lost [04:35] <Afker> Ran had Akuji taken away, dump him somewhere far [04:35] <Afker> the underlings in the organization feel bad for akuji, but they can't disobey ordrs [04:35] <Afker> akuji woke up around a drunk [04:35] <Afker> might be the same guy [04:36] <Afker> who angered akuji [04:36] <Afker> so akuji beat him up [04:36] <Afker> but because akuji jsut had a beating, he is still weak, so can't easily take out the drunk guy [04:36] <Afker> very tired [04:37] <Afker> then he hear police whistle [04:37] <Afker> as 3 girls approach him [04:37] <Afker> tomoko: he's doing vilent act [04:38] <Afker> Mirai: that's right. hey, stop it [04:38] <Afker> akuji: who the hell are you? [04:38] <Afker> Mirai: I'm Mirai of hte Youth Service Group (YGS) [04:38] <Afker> tomoko: I'm tomoko [04:39] <Afker> tomoko: voilence is against the law [04:39] <Afker> mirai: you can't do it [04:39] <Afker> akuji: so, what are you going to do about it [04:39] <Afker> mirai: are you going to resist? then we have to arrest you [04:40] <Afker> akuji: yeah right [04:40] <Afker> mirai: guess there's no choice [04:40] <Afker> tomoko: sorry about htis [04:40] <Afker> hten you fight [04:40] <Afker> and you lost again [04:40] <Afker> since you are still weak [04:41] <Afker> so you got arrested by the girls, you are very angry [04:41] <Afker> they take you back to their HQ, and send you to city council for judgement later [04:42] <Afker> then you fainted after they sadindomething [04:42] <Afker> anyways, after that they took you back to the YGS hq [04:42] <Afker> you woke up [04:42] <Afker> you tell them you can make something very delicious [04:43] <Afker> mirai loves eating, so she released you so you can make the delicious food [04:43] <Afker> but you said you always need to do somethign before making that food [04:44] <Afker> then you overpowered them and H-ed them (while you fainted, you have recovered your strength) [04:44] <Afker> then the girls were awed by your h-skills [04:44] <Afker> and became your girls [04:45] <Afker> the boss of YGS comes back (aoba youko, blue hair girl) [04:45] <Afker> and got H-ed [04:46] <Afker> and also became one of your girls (alhtough officially she is stll the leader of the group) [04:46] <Afker> you told them your goal is to take back wakame, which is rightfully yours [04:47] <Afker> also [04:47] <Afker> Aoba is married, [04:47] <Afker> her husband went to the war, and has not been heard from [04:47] <Afker> anyways [04:48] <Afker> so you use that as a threat (let me have the real power or I'll tell your husband what just happened here when he returns) [04:49] <Afker> then you make the food (for real), and the text also implied you and mirai had some more H [04:49] <Afker> and now we arrive at the save screen [04:49] <Afker> 12 save spots [04:49] * H-junkie[away] is AFK, food....glorious food......will onli be back by tomoraw....pls dun slap me....i'm hungry XD (Pager is On, /ctcp H-junkie[away] Page ) 悠-n-v-i-s-i-o-n・ [04:49] <Afker> top right bar [04:49] <Afker> yellow button is Copy (acter clicking ont it, pick one file to copy frim, than another spot to copty to) [04:49] <Afker> red is "delete" [04:50] <Afker> bottom status bar, left now says Save [04:50] <Afker> the big button says "return" [04:50] <Afker> after you save, an arrow will show up telling you which one is the most recent save [04:50] <Afker> after that [04:51] <Afker> the screen shows "The Governing Organization" [04:51] <Afker> below that says YGS [04:51] <Afker> then: "...turn..." [04:51] <Afker> ie, it's your turn [04:52] <Afker> your base is in Midorigaoka [04:52] <Afker> tomoko first tells you about finances [04:52] <Afker> you control one area right now [04:52] <Afker> the HQ needs an operating budget of 160 [04:53] <Afker> the three girls each receive 20 salary per month [04:53] <Afker> it's more than just personal use though, cuz they also each have YGS members to manage and pay for [04:54] <Afker> right now the group receive 100 funding from city council [04:54] <Afker> akuji says they should be able to get 300 more [04:55] <Afker> tomoko says it's up to someone in the city council (blue-haird man) [04:56] <Afker> akuji said he'll get the money, [04:56] <Afker> also occured to him that if he can build relationship with high-ups in th ecity counci, makes things easier [04:56] <Afker> also [04:56] <Afker> akuji is going to collect money from the residents int eh district [04:57] <Afker> tomoko objects, because YGS is a charity/service/non-profit organization [04:57] <Afker> but akuji says in this age, money equals safty [04:58] <Afker> akuji is oging to collect money, hire more ppl, and use YGS as a front to start wars with other gorups and take over Oosaka [04:58] <Afker> aoba objects, but akuji threatens her [04:58] <Afker> and now finally we are at the Area Phase [04:58] <Afker> this is the big map [04:59] <Afker> status bar says Status Phase, with buttons that say "End", "Info", and Item" [04:59] <Afker> if you put mouse over the text "Area Phase" [04:59] <Afker> you see starts on some districts [04:59] <Afker> starts designate that District Events are available there [05:00] <Afker> a skull indicates bad Safty in that district [05:00] <Afker> passing mouse over a district gives you a popup [05:01] <Afker> top is the name of district [05:01] <Afker> with arrows next to it, which is the influence in that city [05:01] <Afker> more arrows probably means more population [05:01] <Afker> blue arrows are your influence, red arrows are the opposite [05:01] <Afker> so in areas you control it should start out as completely blue [05:02] <Afker> under that, are 6 boxes [05:02] <Afker> where icons of your followers stationed there, if any, are displayed [05:02] <Afker> during the first week, You and tomoko are statinoed at midorugaoka [05:03] <Afker> under that are three boxes [05:03] <Afker> the two on the left are organizations/businesses in that district. [05:03] <Afker> blue background indicates under your control, red the oppposite [05:03] <Afker> the box on the right indicates special buidings of yours [05:04] <Afker> now click on Modorigaoka [05:04] * Xcaliberium believes AFKer has passed the 210,000 word mark [05:04] <Afker> and a new screen pops up [05:04] <Afker> lol [05:04] <Afker> didn't know anyone is still aorund/awake [05:04] <Afker> this screen is the District Status screen [05:04] <Afker> district name and influence emter is at the tob [05:05] <Afker> followed by your followers stationed there [05:05] <Afker> above the icon is name [05:05] * Xcaliberium hasn't said he was going to sleep [05:05] * Xcaliberium goes back to game [05:05] <Afker> the the lowerright corner is the Safty ability [05:05] <Afker> >_<" [05:05] <Afker> d-: [05:05] <Afker> and under that, the collect ability of each character is displayed [05:06] <Afker> lower, it shows which organization rules this district, [05:06] <Afker> and underthat, are the money charts that was covered in tutorial [05:06] <Afker> there is a "Build" button on the right, it's green [05:06] <Afker> click on it and choices pop u [05:07] <Afker> don't build anything yet, wanna save money [05:07] <Afker> but jsut take a look [05:07] <Afker> top right is the safty scarcrow [05:08] <Afker> on the left you see the eatary place, the "ATM" (loan shark mahcine), and the "Weird SignalWave Tower" [05:08] <Afker> bottom right is Retreat [05:08] <Afker> now we exit [05:08] <Afker> left bottom of the District Status screen are the district actions [05:08] <Afker> the firt one is Increase HelpFund Movement [05:08] <Afker> don't select anythign yet [05:09] <Afker> that's the oen that increases basic collectability of the district, avaiailable when Safty Level is Excellent (which is shown on the bottom right) [05:09] <Afker> under that you see "Babaa Long House",which is a local business. [05:09] <Afker> next to it is a parenthesis saying "Take Over" [05:10] <Afker> again, learn the word for "Take Over" cuz it's there for ever district where you can take over businesses [05:10] <Afker> the last one is a one-time only event. [05:10] <Afker> don't click on it yet [05:10] <Afker> because you can only do one District Event per turn, and this turn we want to do something else [05:11] <Afker> but this third option will get you enlist a Spy for your orginization, who'll be your information master [05:11] <Afker> so do it next turn [05:11] <Afker> exit district stutus screen to return to the big map [05:12] <Afker> it's color coded to show who rules what district [05:12] <Afker> the city council is yellow [05:12] <Afker> let's visit the one on the top that's ruled by the city [05:12] <Afker> Haruse [05:13] <Afker> the first District event in Haruse, is City Council [05:13] <Afker> the action in parenthesis is (Meet with Overseer) [05:13] <Afker> pick that [05:14] <Afker> and you'll take Aoba to the city council and meet up with Karasuba, the blue haird guy with a comb [05:16] <Afker> the two of you talked, you promised he'll get something in return (in money and in females) [05:16] <Afker> and you got the funding from City Council to be raised to 400 a month [05:16] <Afker> note that if you pick a District Event, after the event is over, you jupm right into the next phase [05:17] <Afker> so do all your constructions and Safty Recovery Movements before you do District Event (especially important when you have multiple districts to manage) [05:17] <Afker> next phase, is the Follower Phase [05:18] <Afker> the status bar says "Follower Phase", with buttons "End", "Info", and "Item" [05:18] <Afker> on the top [05:18] <Afker> you see 4 buttons [05:18] <Afker> the right, the red one, is "delete" [05:18] <Afker> this deletes characters from your party [05:18] <Afker> some characters, if deleted, cauze a game over [05:19] <Afker> then there are two stutas buttons [05:19] <Afker> default at Politics right now [05:19] <Afker> the other one is battle [05:19] <Afker> the button on the left is "Sort by..." [05:19] <Afker> if you pass mouse over it [05:20] <Afker> new buttons pop up to the left [05:20] <Afker> curently it defautls to "basic order", which is an order internal to the game. [05:20] <Afker> this will put generic characters at the end of the list by type [05:21] <Afker> second button from the left is "By Loyality" [05:21] <Afker> person with lowest loyality goes on top [05:21] <Afker> then it's ranked by HP [05:21] <Afker> seems that higher HP is on top [05:21] <Afker> finally by "assignment" [05:22] <Afker> this puts ppl who are assigned to places at the bottom, and unassigned ppl to the top [05:22] <Afker> whenever two ppl have same characteristics of the sort, it follows the basic orer [05:22] <Afker> now we take a look at a character's status [05:22] <Afker> the left is the characetr icon [05:22] <Afker> with experience points on top [05:22] <Afker> for example, Aoba [05:23] <Afker> Exp 0/40 [05:23] <Afker> she has 0 exp right now, need 40 to level up [05:23] <Afker> as covered in tutorial [05:23] <Afker> to the right, the top bar in the status has first her alignment (girl) then her name [05:24] <Afker> under that, on the left, going top to bottom, is "Safty Ability", "Collect Ability", and "Salary" [05:24] <Afker> on the right, top value is Loyality, which max at 99 [05:24] <Afker> under neath that is "Loyality Type" [05:25] <Afker> all three girls are currently "Love Desire", which is typical for most girls after you h-them [05:25] <Afker> the bottom bar are the alignments they are good against [05:25] <Afker> if you take a look at battle mode of charcter status [05:26] <Afker> you see a Attack Range that's next to their name. all three girls have Long range attacks [05:26] <Afker> the left column, top down, are HP, Stamina, and Luck [05:26] <Afker> right column are: Attack power, Hit-rate, and Evade [05:27] <Afker> attacking takes one bar of stamina, and special attacks take up two [05:27] <Afker> you always deal exactly the damage as your attack power, unless modified by special skills [05:27] <Afker> for hit-rate and evade, higher the better, but I don't know how it's calculateed [05:28] <Afker> pass mouse over one of them and you'll see the portrain of the character [05:28] <Afker> click on the status of the character to meet that follower [05:28] <Afker> you can only meet one follower per phase [05:29] <Afker> when you meet them, there might be special talks for that person [05:29] <Afker> usually there's one when the first time you meed him/her [05:29] <Afker> and also when that character has special events [05:29] <Afker> after that is done, there's a menu [05:29] <Afker> the bottom shows Name and Loyality [05:30] <Afker> then what her relation to you is (all 3 girls are "Akuji's Girl") [05:30] <Afker> the menu choices right now are: [05:30] <Afker> Info, H, Bonus, Combat Training, and Political T\raining [05:31] <Afker> Info showes basic info on the character, and isn't a real command [05:31] <Afker> first it shows "Over all combat ability" [05:31] <Afker> then Exp [05:31] <Afker> and Skill (currently blank for skill) [05:31] <Afker> then shows "Hit-rate", "Evade", and "attack power" [05:32] <Afker> then "HP", "Stamina", luck isn't displayed (maybe because it's zero, or it's just not displayed ingeneral) [05:33] <Afker> next screen is "Pay", "Collect Ability" and "Safty Ability" (hers is Excellent) [05:33] <Afker> now, we want the military training, so we can get her special skills [05:33] <Afker> and give her exp [05:33] <Afker> Political training will increase her collect ability slightly [05:34] <Afker> so pick on military training [05:34] <Afker> and you arrive at the traiing hall [05:34] <Afker> she gains 20 exp (cuz need 40 to level up, and 40 / 2 = 20) [05:34] <Afker> and she picks up the skill "Take it Easy" [05:35] <Afker> then we are at the "Movement Phase", which is where you assign people to disssferent districts [05:35] <Afker> on the left again you see character status (with yourself also in the list) [05:35] <Afker> if a person as assigned somewhere, that person's status will be shaded, and name of location of assignment will be there [05:36] <Afker> right now both akuji and tomoko are assigned to midorigaoka [05:36] <Afker> 'on the left you see a map on the top [05:36] <Afker> and 6 slots on the bottom [05:36] <Afker> pass your mouse over midorigaoka (the blue one) on the map [05:37] <Afker> and you'll see the twoo ppl assigned there now [05:37] <Afker> also you see the influene metr [05:37] <Afker> at the corner of the mini map is the Collect Base [05:37] <Afker> which is be basic collectability of the district [05:38] <Afker> the bottom of the 6 slots, you see "Safty 80% Collect 100 (sum of 2 ppl) [05:38] <Afker> also, with the character's icon, you can see the stamina bar which is vertical, and HP which is numerical [05:39] <Afker> on the mini map [05:39] <Afker> you see districts aroudn you with numbers [05:39] <Afker> those are number of enemy stationed in each district [05:40] <Afker> if you click on a district, then even after your mouse move away from the minimap, it'''l still display info for that district [05:40] <Afker> and the district selected will have white border [05:41] <Afker> if you pass mouse over a character, then the district that character is assigned to (if any) will have a white-shade [05:41] <Afker> also, if mouse is over a character assigned someplace, you see a button show up, which is to De-assign that person, so that person won't ba assigned to that place anymore [05:42] <Afker> to assign ppl to places [05:42] <Afker> you can drag the character icon from either the 6-slot area, or the character list on the right [05:43] <Afker> and you can drop them on either the 6-character slot area, or inside the particular region in the mini map [05:43] <Afker> experient with it now [05:43] <Elementasts> k [05:43] <Afker> now, assign all 4 peoplw to Heguri, the district right abouve you [05:43] <Afker> oops [05:43] <Afker> didn't know you were around [05:43] <Afker> ok, I'll give you time to experiment [05:43] <Afker> d-: [05:44] <Elementasts> hehe [05:44] <Elementasts> actually just go on [05:44] <Afker> ok, click the "End" button on the bottom after you assigned all your ppl to Heguri [05:45] <Afker> next phase is Battle Phase [05:45] <Afker> buttons on the bottom are "End" and "Info" [05:45] <Afker> you shuld see hegure as the only enabled district, where you can fight [05:45] <Afker> mouse over it, and you'll see same popup as during Area Phase [05:46] <Afker> click [05:46] <Afker> it'll show "Needed Funds: 100", "Battle Turns: 1" [05:46] <Afker> and ask if you want to attack [05:46] <Afker> top is yes, bottom is no [05:46] <Afker> pick yes [05:46] <Afker> now it's 4 against 3 [05:46] <Afker> so there are 4 turns [05:47] <Afker> population in this district is 4, so right now 4 red influence bars in the meter [05:47] <Afker> mouse over each character icon to see their stats Session Start: Fri May 03 05:49:33 2002 [05:49] *** Now talking in #Alice_In_Hgameland [05:49] *** Topic is 'Daiakuji online-tuturial, 12:30 PST in this channel | Comment, discuss, and share AliceSoft games ( http://www.comike.com/php/list_per_brand.phtml?brand_id=109 ) here, or other innovative H-games | Timers 1 hour+ please | no harassing people ' [05:49] *** Set by Afker on Thu May 02 22:28:22 [05:49] *** Afked is now known as afker [05:49] arg [05:50] computer rebotted ieself [05:50] <Elementasts> Afker [05:50] <Elementasts> there is no Distric on the map named Oruta Ero [05:50] greetings [05:50] hehe [05:51] *** AfkServ has joined #Alice_in_Hgameland [05:51] indeed [05:51] never said it's a district [05:53] <Elementasts> <Afker> to increase training skill poitns, you need to visit a particular district's event [05:53] <Elementasts> <Afker> "Oruta Ero" is the name of the place [05:54] <Elementasts> :3 [05:54] place not equal to district [05:55] <Elementasts> ok tell me which district has it [05:55] later [05:55] <Xcaliberium> AFKer could you tell me why I can't get these 2 red buildings I have owned the place for 8 turns now [05:56] in hageri? [05:56] heguri [05:56] <Elementasts> oh yea [05:56] you just can't [05:56] <Xcaliberium> in Daiakuji [05:56] <Elementasts> how do you know how much a building costs? [05:56] 2 mansions [05:57] <Xcaliberium> think so here's a pic [05:57] price is listed under the constrictuion potion [05:57] optoin [05:57] <Elementasts> I mean [05:57] http://www.geocities.com/lisfunhouse/animegmh.html [05:57] check agains thtis site [05:57] <Elementasts> the buildings [05:57] <Elementasts> the ones that contribute t the max collictibility rate [05:58] they don't cost you anything [05:58] <Elementasts> you jus take them over? [05:59] yeah [05:59] <Elementasts> k [05:59] <Elementasts> how about the Political training? [05:59] <Elementasts> what exactly does it do? [05:59] scroll up d-: [06:00] I'm tring to get back to where I was in the game nright now, to continue with the tutorial [06:00] <Elementasts> ah [06:00] <Elementasts> XD [06:00] <Elementasts> didnt notice [06:01] ok, so now we are at the fisrt battle [06:01] first thin to notice is all the enemy are generic, and all aer 30 HP [06:02] akuji right now can deal 20 [06:02] and mirai can deal 8 [06:02] while aoba can deal 6 with "Take it easy" ability [06:02] so first we send akuji up [06:03] actually, one of them has 31 health, but that's minor detain d-: [06:03] basically, try not to kill them [06:03] damage them enough so you'll be able to capture them [06:04] for first three rounds computer will pick those who are at full health [06:04] or at least very healthy [06:04] so use akuji for first three rounds [06:05] then fourth round comp has to pick someone whos' hurt (unless akuji didn't manage to damange one of them) [06:05] use mirai to damange her if she's at 10 or 11. use akuji again if she has full health [06:06] then battle is over [06:06] you probably won, and gain one influence point [06:06] and probably captured one enemy [06:06] now if you want ti fight again, will cost 500. don't [06:06] (no money anyways) [06:07] click *end* to end the phase [06:07] then it's wakame groups turn, and you see events [06:07] pretty much introducing the key staff of the organization [06:07] then it's city council's turn [06:08] <Elementasts> why does it cost 500 to fight again? [06:08] I just zoom past it [06:08] it cost more to fight a second round [06:08] I'm sure someone can come up with some rationalization [06:08] <Elementasts> is it always 500? [06:08] then it's the independent's turn [06:08] second round probalby always 500 [06:09] during independent's turn, Kaneshita district gained independeince from wakame [06:09] and the heguri region people probably will attack the ppl you have inserted tghere [06:09] the cost to fight them this time is down to 100 again, cuz it's not your turn anymore [06:10] pick fight, and now that they are all hurt, don't use akuji [06:10] consider there are 4 turns, and only two enemies, [06:10] pick tomoko [06:11] let her attack 3 times [06:11] then on round four pick either mirai or Aoba, so that you'll deal enough damage to capture, but not kill [06:12] (if enemy is at 6 or below, use the "Take it easy" ability of aoba) [06:12] if htings go well, can caputre at least one, if not both enemies [06:12] then turn ends [06:12] and we are at save screen again [06:13] turn two starts, for me at least, with recruiting new menbers (this might be random) [06:13] you can only recruit a few generic characters [06:13] then you go to the basement, and visit your captives [06:14] for female captives, the options are: H, bribe, turtore <this one doesn't always appear>, Kill, or send to City prison [06:15] the last two aren't much different I find [06:15] turtore usually requires several rounds of tutoring to get what info you need [06:15] each time the turtore is harsher [06:15] but for now, we just want to get more ppl, so bribe [06:16] these girls in green uniform are very easy to bribe, and I got all 3 to join my party [06:16] back at the Area Pphase, this time you do have free choice of what to do [06:17] <Elementasts> bribe? [06:17] yeah [06:17] <Elementasts> you just need to H them 2 times [06:17] <Elementasts> and they'll join [06:17] basically offer them money in exchange of service [06:17] see, that takes 2 times [06:17] I need followers now [06:17] <Elementasts> cheaper that way :p [06:17] dunno [06:17] bribe doesn't really take money [06:18] and after you h-them, still need to pay [06:18] <Elementasts> it doesn't? [06:18] dunno if salary is different between two approaches [06:18] that need to be experimented [06:18] <Elementasts> hmmm [06:18] 'in kaneshita district [06:18] you can visith thier onsen [06:19] visit twice and you'll get a purple-hair guy to join [06:19] I think he's gay and likes you [06:19] he's cool though [06:19] everytime you level up, he automatically levels up too [06:19] <Elementasts> XD [06:20] his loyality can be increased by combat training [06:20] in Korumon [06:20] *** Xcaliberium has quit IRC (Quit: ) [06:20] there's a standard district event: The Left Item House [06:20] the action for that is (Buy stuff) [06:21] that's the item shop [06:21] at fisrt it doesn't carry a lot of items [06:21] you usually get items from dungeons or other special events (when you marry you usually receive a few items) [06:21] after you cleared the game and replay [06:21] all the items you have received in a previous game, are sold at this shop [06:22] you also can get items from turtoring captives [06:22] anyways [06:22] there's a one-time special event in this city, which is "Shopping at the shopping street" [06:22] if you do this event, you'll enter a raffle, and I think win tickets ot a hotel. [06:23] enough tickets for your entire gang, wich will completely heal everyone [06:23] but can only be used once [06:23] I'll let you know wher ethe hotel is later [06:24] at Haruse district, right now I see one district event [06:24] it's a theatre [06:24] you can check it out [06:24] after you take over the district later, you can take over the theatre, and with the right conditions, recruit the guy who owns the place [06:25] in Suzuka, the district right below it, I currently see "Chinpira Scouting" [06:25] Chinpira are the low level gangsters in white coat [06:26] the last 4 characteres thhere mean "Scout". learn to recognize it, cuz you can also scout some other characters [06:26] in Hinode district, I see a "Capture Dog" sepcial event [06:26] <Elementasts> what exactly do you do in scouting? [06:27] basically you recruit one guy [06:27] that's what scouting means [06:27] <Elementasts> ah [06:27] capture dog means to get one dog to join you [06:27] these scouting and caputring are special events, may be offered multiple times, but don't always appear [06:28] at Hakua, there's a onetime event [06:28] it's [06:28] "Under the Legendary Tree" [06:28] it increases akuji's luck by 1 [06:28] in Ashiya, you can visit a mansion [06:29] in it lives a general [06:29] of the old gapanese army [06:29] who's right now being held captive in his home, with the US army guarding/watching him [06:30] he has a younger guy who's a commander from the old jap army, who is planning to rebel agains tthe US [06:30] the general also has two strong fighters with him [06:30] and a grand daughter... [06:30] right now the action you do is "Initial Visit" [06:31] the other mansion in this district belows to the mayor, and you can't visit it yet [06:31] I've covered Midorigaoka before [06:32] in Sakai, I have a "Glassgirl Scout" [06:33] In Kousien, I see a "Combat-loving Housewife" event [06:33] you an recruit her [06:33] while she is a generic housewife character, she has better stats than usual housewife characters [06:33] in fact [06:34] ppl you recruit from Koushien usually have better stats then the normal characters of hte same class [06:34] in Eiden, the top choice is "The Girl of the Anti-US movement" [06:35] <Elementasts> hehe [06:35] the second one is "check out construction area" [06:35] <Elementasts> that was cute [06:35] US is construction a stronghold in Eden [06:35] for these girls that you can caputre, they usually require you to do their district events several times, at diff places [06:36] so after you pick her event here, she'll move on somewhere else, blah blah [06:36] after a few times you can finally get her [06:36] <Elementasts> will her event name be the same? [06:36] yes [06:36] typically [06:36] for most girls yes [06:37] right now, my turn two, I'm going to recruit the spy from Midorigaoka [06:37] you may choose to do the same, or something different, htough some things from now on happens randomly [06:38] the spy, Shimamoto Jun, was one of your friends back at the old wakame [06:39] he wants to help you overthrow wakame [06:39] and he really wants to see how much you can do, kinda like an experiment [06:40] if you get him to join you, you can see his loyality ytpe is "Principle" [06:40] he joins you for the principle, so his loyality will never decrease [06:40] whoever you hired at the beginning of the turn should have "Material desire" as loyality type [06:40] and if you bribed the green-uniform girls, same [06:41] <Elementasts> aha! [06:41] the 3 YGS girls, and if you h-ed any of the green uniforms, will have type Love Desire [06:41] <Elementasts> so if I sexed them [06:41] <Elementasts> yes [06:41] lower salary? [06:41] right now it's 100 for me [06:41] at material desire of the green uniforms [06:42] anyways, for this turn [06:42] I'm going to talke to mirai, and train her so she gets her special attack [06:43] her's is "Hit-rate up" [06:44] now I'm going to keep tomoko at heguri, and send the others (akuji, aoba, mirai, June, and one of the green uniform) to Kakua [06:45] this is because I already caputred all the enemy forces at hegure, so I only need one person to gain influence there [06:45] while the rest fight at hakua [06:45] depending on how your previous fights turn out, you might want to distribute forces differently [06:46] 'since there are no enemy forces present at heguri for me, I gain 3 influence bars [06:46] and since I got one from last turn already, that's all I need to take ocntrol of this area [06:46] now I"m down to 200 gold [06:46] so I can't attack Hakua [06:47] so I pick End [06:47] wakame do their thing [06:47] an observer from the city council goes to wakame (the red head in uniform, one of my fav girls in this game) [06:47] then city council do thier thing [06:48] and an event wiht panda happen [06:48] basically there's this panda-controlling girl hiding in hinode [06:48] pandas probalby camefrom the zoon [06:48] and city council is trubled [06:48] then [06:49] the ppl at Hakua decids to attack me [06:49] this turn, battle only cost 100, and I fight htem [06:49] * H-junkie[away] is AFK, food....glorious food......will onli be back by tomoraw....pls dun slap me....i'm hungry XD (Pager is On, /ctcp H-junkie[away] Page ) 悠-n-v-i-s-i-o-n・ [06:49] there is this soldier here [06:49] who has 70 hp [06:49] very strong [06:50] I decide to start attacking using mirai, hopeing to capture some dogs, and also judging that even if hte soldier attacks, she'll survive [06:51] at the end of the fight, mirai hit each of them once, so all the dogs got captured [06:51] I leveled up Aoba [06:51] and we eare at the Ability Up Phase [06:51] you can increase one of hte 5 stats [06:52] attack +3, hit-rate +4, evade +2, HP +5, or luck +1 [06:52] since aoba has the "Take it easy" ability, I decide to increase her attack [06:53] others also leveled up, and what abilityes you want to increas for them is up to you [06:53] after save screen you see the System screen [06:53] not that several events have been logged [06:54] at turn three, more ppl form your old gang shows up [06:54] this bold headed guy is the one who trains prostitutes [06:55] he has 2 ppl working for hime [06:55] the girl in charge the working girl houses, the boy in charge of training, mostly [06:55] then you get a choice to hire them or not [06:55] the top is to hire [06:55] whihc you shoidl pick [06:56] then to the basement [06:56] for animals [06:56] the choices are "Bribe", "Kill", "Send to Zoo" [06:56] pick whatever [06:57] I usually get one animal of each kind, and send the rest to zoon [06:57] zoo [06:57] the prison keeper really likes animals, and if you send enough to the zoo, she will give you items [06:58] at city phase, if you look at the build options, you'll see a new house available under the Safty Scarcrows [06:58] that's the training house, which costs 500 to build. [06:58] we don't have money right now, so will come back later [06:59] you should have taken over heguir by now [06:59] if htat is the case, the a few options might come up [06:59] there are two mensions you can visit [06:59] one with red roof and one with green room [07:00] you can match the first two characters in the discrict command with the first two in the icons for that city [07:00] the red roof is owned by a fat rich man (I can't visit there yet, but will explain now) [07:00] he's into SM and abusive H [07:00] he as a maid that he abuses [07:01] also, once you met him, he sometimes ask you to send him well-trained prostitutes and he'll pay you [07:01] or ask you to kidnap different types of girls (you kidnap by doing other district commands) and send to him [07:01] and he'll pay you [07:02] for me I'm visiting Kaneshita this turn, so next turn if I visit I'll get the purple head [07:03] then, at follower phase, I train tomoko so she get's her skill "Fog" (no damage is dealt for that round) [07:03] actually it's "White Smoke" [07:04] at assignment phase, I calculate what troops I need to send to Hakua [07:04] I'm not going to invade the green wakame group, cuz they are too strong right now [07:05] hinode is filled with super buff pandas [07:05] and ashiya has two strong ppl too, so I'm just oing to concentrate on hakua. [07:05] besides, I only have 100 left [07:05] there's only one guy at hakua, but that solder I remember has 70 total hp, adn 18 damage [07:06] I wanna capture him, so I'm taking aoba [07:06] he has lots of HP, so I'm bringing akuji [07:06] *** kazami_hayato has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer ) [07:06] *** kapipo has quit IRC (Read/Dead Error: Connection reset by peer ) [07:07] at 70hp, I need to hit him 3 timees with akuji (mirai has already damaged him a bit last round), so I shuold take 3 ppl total (to have three rounds of fight) [07:07] before I assign the third person [07:07] I note that it's week 3 now [07:08] and at beginning of week 4 we do finances [07:08] so I need to put ppl back in my districts so they can collect money [07:09] placed it so that each district will collect it's full amount of collectability [07:09] that leaves the dog as the third guy to hakua [07:10] and I attack [07:10] (only when you active attack and win can you gain influence. if enemy attack you and you fight them off, no change in influence) [07:10] and I use up the last of my money [07:11] unfortunately for me, akuji only hit the soldier twice, the third time he didn't couner attack [07:11] so the solder ended the turn with 27 health [07:11] and didn't caputre him [07:12] then, wakame did their thing, the city did their thing, another district (Kuromen,the shopping district) gaine indpendence [07:13] then the soldier guy counterattacked [07:13] since I ran out of money, I couldn't fight hiim [07:13] and my entire party got caputreds, including akuji, so game over for me )-: [07:13] I should've accounted for some miss, and may be akuji won't have enoguht hp for more than 3 attacks [07:14] so should've brount 6 ppl when I decide to attack him (enough to capture him) [07:14] anyways, if I did not die, the next round will be finance [07:15] go borrow money using the bottom left button [07:15] that's around 5500 I think [07:15] you need money to fight off enemies and get more territory to make money, so it's definitley worht it [07:15] you might fire a few generic characters to save money [07:16] but then you need them for fights too... [07:20] things tha thappen later: [07:20] each turn one of wakame's territories will go independeing [07:20] after kuromon is probably Nankou, and filannly funai [07:20] wakame is left with 3 districts [07:23] if you followed my steps, but sent 6 ppl to hakua instead, you should be able to capture the solder the round I died, borrow money, and capture that district in two more turns (using one sucky guy, and let the rest recover hp/stamina) [07:23] once recovered, you may invade ashiya. [07:23] or not [07:24] if you want to marry the grand daughter, then you need to keep visiting her home without conquering hte district [07:24] and eventually theere'll be a choice to marry her [07:24] and get the general's two followers to join you before that [07:24] if you attack, you need to fight the two followers and maybe additonal troops, [07:25] you can capture them and eventually bribe them [07:25] but the for the grand daughter you won't be marry (though you can capture her and make her a working girl) [07:25] can't attack pink yet [07:25] so I would recommand taking Itami next, or Kofun [07:26] kofun is guarded by monkies and ostriches [07:26] who are relatively strong [07:26] so also make sur eyou troops are healthy eonough before fightign them [07:27] after that, you can take out daniijri and kaneshita [07:27] all the time getting more followers so you have more fighters [07:27] but not too much that it cost too much to maintian, watch the balance [07:27] about htis time, or earlier, Wakame will start their move [07:28] they have two main attack forces I think [07:28] parties of 6 [07:28] or 5 [07:28] one led by Kaga Motoko, the other just generic [07:28] when fighing them, don't fight the independs also [07:29] unless you have fighters and money enough to spare [07:29] also [07:29] aroudn this time, Minka, your sweetheart, returns to Oosaka [07:29] you'll see her come back [07:30] her shop is located in Koube, when she's back [07:30] to marry her, visit her enough times (4~5) before you completely conquer the wakame [07:31] then after you take out wakame, you'll automatically propose to her, and she'll give you a condition. the top choice is to marry her, agreeing to her conditions [07:31] the bottom is to reject the conditions, and she'll leave you forever [07:32] if you haven't visited her 4~5 times before, then you will still propose to her, but hte condiiton will be to leave the yakuza world completely, and join her in running restuarant [07:32] anyways [07:33] sometime after your war with wakame starts, the purple cult group will start to expand (may be before or after you done with wakame) [07:33] also, with boht the cult group and wakame, if you think you are strong enough, you can attack them first before they attack you [07:34] I usually wait so my troops can fight after they recovered [07:37] this wraps up the 7-hour tutorial sessions. Another one will be continuted some date later. [07:37] I'll wait around to take any questions you may have [07:37] then I'm off to bed [07:37] 7:37am here d-: [07:38] <XiahouDun> you've been up all night? [07:38] yeah [07:38] doing the tutorial [07:38] <XiahouDun> your nuts man....go get some sleep [07:38] lol [07:38] <XiahouDun> questions can wait i'm sure [07:39] I will wait around a bit to take any questions [07:39] <XiahouDun> i doubt anyone is here [07:39] they come back once in a while [07:39] <XiahouDun> then just get a few hours in then ;P