User talk:Ludo-Rathowm

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I saw you renaming "Rance World" to "The Continent". But I thought JAPAN is not part of The Continent?

They're broken off from the main portion, but Ludo's world itself is named The Continent. Ludo-Rathowm (talk) 11:29, September 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think we need to be careful separating the concept of "ルドラサウム大陸" (the name of the entirety of landmass created by Ludo-Rathowm, which does gets referred to as just 大陸) versus the geographical 大陸. Consider:
 * The Tenma Bridge connects JAPAN and 大陸
 * When Rance visits JAPAN, he is from 大陸
 * Reference of 藤原石丸 invading into 大陸 after unifying JAPAN.
 * Reference of 聖魔教団 completing conquest of 大陸, and then move on to invade JAPAN
 * The situation is similar to: "the islands of Great Britain and Ireland are part of Europe" (and Europe is a continent), but "the term continental Europe (sometimes "the Continent") is used to refer to mainland Europe, excluding islands such as Great Britain, Ireland, and Iceland" (italicized words are quoted from Wikipedia). Replace the islands with JAPAN, and replace Europe with ルドラサウム大陸.
 * Unfortunately we have a problem where "the Continent" sometimes refers to the equivalent of "Europe" (which works when there is no other continent in the world), and sometimes refers to the equivalent of "continental Europe". Note however, that in JAPAN the term 大陸 is never used to refer to the entirety of landmasses. And if someone outside JAPAN uses the term 大陸 to refer to the whole world (I don't actually think this ever happened in any of the games?), it is more likely out of some continental-centric point of view (in the same way the male-centric English language can use "men" to refer to humans in general).
 * Now, if you take a look at the map taken from AliceSoft's official website, Sengoku Rance section, it is labeled "RANCE WORLD MAP" in English. I would like to argue that "Rance World" is a correct (and official) name for ルドラサウム大陸. Using "Rance World" to refer to the overall landmass also has the advantage of avoiding ambulation when mentioning the Continent in various articles (since most of the time, the mention of the Continent in the articles occurs from an in-universe usage, which is meant to excludes JAPAN).
 * Thus, I propose renaming the article to "Rance World", and adding a sentence early in the article saying it is also sometimes referred to as "ルドラサウム大陸" (The Ludo-Rathowm Continent). What do you think about this proposal?


 * While that is a decent enough argument, it could also be argued that the fact remains of JAPAN originally being a piece of the Continent itself, though I will concede that they are now two separate entities.
 * Perhaps we could reach a compromise and keep the page listed as "The Continent" and create a separate article for JAPAN that links from an introductory paragraph.
 * The JAPAN article would of course explain that it was originally a piece of the continent before it was shattered by Orochi, developed its own unique culture and subsequently connected to the mainland by Amaterasu through the Tenma Bridge.
 * Really, I'm all about expanding this wiki, so the more detailed articles we have about more things the better.
 * Ludo-Rathowm (talk) 10:30, September 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well the JAPAN article already did mention it was broken off from the Continent in the history section.  I don't thin that information is particularily important as part of its intro paragraph (belongs more to historical trivia).  I do believe there should be an article about the Continent, but it shouldn't replace the overall article that describes the entire world.

Credit for TL patch
Just wanted to confirm, is this patch:

http://pastebin.com/77cw9X3R

actually crazylegryan's and not done by you or Roven-Pan? And if so did you guys ever make any partial interface patch for RQ/RQM? Gahahahahahahaha!!!! 07:30, March 4, 2013 (UTC)