User talk:Cinderwood

Greetings!
Hi there! Good to see another AliceSoft fan on the wiki! (-: What games have you been playing recently? -Afker 06:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Afker.

Wanted to give you credit for your Dai Banchou guide. A little more complete than the one I put together on my own. Too bad we can't upload screenshots, since I have good pictures of the rest of the cast... phooey.

Currently, I'm between games. I devoted so much energy into my Dai Banchou guide that I played it through about 6 times strait and neglected other games. I'm in the middle of DALK, since it didn't require much strategy. I hope to post some of what I learned while playing the game, but I'd have to start with a cover page, and that kind of intimidates me (any advice would be appreciated). Right now, I'm trying to build a similar guide for Dai Akuji, but I haven't played it enough to consider myself knowledgeable enough to update the wiki section. I'll probably try to fill in a few things for Dai Banchou, if that's all right. I also want to play Galzoo.

Basically, I like games that are actually games, with the Hentai thrown in for spice. Games like Nangoku Dominion, and anything from Liarsoft. Trouble is, by the time I finish one, there's three new ones.


 * The Daibanchou guide is a collaborative effort by many users of the wiki, much like the Sengoku Rance. If I were to do it alone, I probably wouldn't have the time to get it to where it is right now, and I would be delighted if you can add anything the guide is still missing (or rewrite any sections that doesn't explain things clearly).  As for advice, I encourage you to be bold on the wiki, and experiment a lot.  It's ok to leave formatting messed up, having content is much more important than making things look pretty, and the greatest advantage of the wiki is that anyone else can help clean up the formatting.  You can also check out the wiki tutorial link from the main page, it has some formatting tips.
 * My tastes is very similar to yours, in that I also prefer games that are actually games. But yeah they do take up a lot of time.  Men at Work 4 and Pastel Chime Continue are two of the games I've preordered before they came out, but still haven't got around playing... (and I'll probably end up playing Haruka before those two).
 * For images, while we cannot use screenshots directly taken from the game, we can use images found on the AliceSoft website. Also, if you have any friends who can draw, you can show them the screenshot and ask them to draw their own renditions of the character and give permission to use it on the wiki.  I hope this can alleviate some of the handicaps of not being able to use screenshots.
 * Anyways, I'll set up something to help get you started on Dalk Gaiden in a bit(or were you talking about the original Dalk game?). Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything! -Afker 03:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The Dalk Gaiden main article is setup, and I've created some red links on the navigation bar to some sections I think would be useful. Feel free to edit the navigation bar to change things around! -Afker 04:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Afker. BY the way, I can do some nice things with an art program, so I might take up the challenge of creating some passable copies of cast pictures. I'm guilty of being easily distracted, so I tend to be slow. Still, I'll see what I can do. -Cinderwood 13:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I tried to do a render of Francine, and I uploaded it, but I don't know how to put it into the character file. You can find the butchered picture in my contributions section. Decide if you want it included or not. Cinderwood 00:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Aww, I hope I don't discourage you when I say this, but it looks too much like the original image, instead of being original fan art. I was hoping for something that looks even cruder (if going to be the same posture as the original), or something that is obviously self drawn (as opposed to being possibly altered from in-game image).
 * An example of something being super crude there's no question it's drawn, but uses more-or-less the color/posture so ppl playing the game can easily make the connection:

! Drawn image || In-game image
 * [[Image:Rance 5-Rance face.jpg]] || [[Image:Rance 5D - Rance face.jpg]]
 * }
 * And here's an example of a completely original fan art: [[Image:Ikaman.PNG|128px]]
 * So basically, I wouldn't use your image of Francine because it comes dangerously close to being able to be accused as "altered/traced from another image (that we don't have permission to use)". On the flip side, I think it looks great d-:  Anyways, do you think you are able to draw completely original fan art?  Or to make your "butchered" Francine even cruder that it is obviously not traced/altered from another picture?  Again I hope you aren't discouraged, I know you put in a lot of effort into it. -Afker 00:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * So basically, I wouldn't use your image of Francine because it comes dangerously close to being able to be accused as "altered/traced from another image (that we don't have permission to use)". On the flip side, I think it looks great d-:  Anyways, do you think you are able to draw completely original fan art?  Or to make your "butchered" Francine even cruder that it is obviously not traced/altered from another picture?  Again I hope you aren't discouraged, I know you put in a lot of effort into it. -Afker 00:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not discouraged. It may take me a bit longer, though. My skills as a visual copier are better than my skills as a fan artist. I'll try Francine a second time and see what I can dream up. Thanks for the advice. -Cinderwood 03:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks (-: -Afker 05:41, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay. I submit, for your discretion, a new version of the picture, to be found in my contributions. This one was done from scratch. -Cinderwood 21:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hehe, ok this one passes, except for one tiny nit-pick: it is possible that she habitually uses her left hand to hold the cigarette (just random speculation). The nit-pick is not important, we can use the image as-is, or you can flip it horizontally and everything will be fixed d-: -Afker 06:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Image naming convention
Since this wiki deals with a lot of different games by AliceSoft, in general please prefix image names with the name of the game they are from. You don't have to redo the ones you already uploaded, just keep that in mind in the future. Thanks!!! (-: -Afker 06:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello Cinderwood, Nice to see that you are working on Daiakuji, too. Say I still try to figure out how to chara clear this super weak dojo girl in Kitahama. I have tried a lot even to lv her up greatly (wich takes a lot of time >_>). Maybe you can give me a hint?^^

Vjuchi 22:49, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, Vjuchi, my guides are still very rough around the edges. I use Atlas translation and then I play the game to confirm what's going on and re-write it in English that makes sense. Of course that relies on me getting to the point you're talking about... 
 * Anyway, enough excuses. According to the rough info I have in my records, the dojo girl (山林 吹雪 Forest snowstorm) has two events and I'm not sure which is the character clear. The first is a series of events that occur when you fight the F1 group (not generated for the high mountain class route). The first event has the last pupil resigning. Next, The "gym breaker" comes and is defeated (whether this is an event or an actual battle I can't yet say). Next, I of Yoonna comes and is defeated. Next, the urchin comes, it is defeated, and rape is done. Finally, Sisters of the schoolgirl in the vicinity come and it is defeated at the younger sister. Pardon the grammar, but as I said, I have to clean it up once I see the event myself.
 * The other event, and of more interest to you I think, concerns her stats. When the combat (Not a dungeon search) is ended moribund (tied?) after it meets once in the subordinate phase, the power-up event is generated. Three times20 rises of physical strength and the attack. 40 rises of the hit and evasion. Once again, grammar/ see event...

Hello, Thanks for your help. The first thing you`r talking about is a scripted event. I don´t think it has something with her chara clear but a CG thought. I will try the second thing you are assuming, to use her in battle a little. She has only 10% hit and is weak as hell. I have to save/load a lot. *gg*

~ Vju

Big Bang Age buildings
I think you can "destroy" buildings by simply building something else there. My hard disk space is a little tight now so I can't check directly. -Afker All hail AliceSoft! 05:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)